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Looking into building a gaming PC, need tips/advice.

#11PhilOnDezPosted 7/4/2014 10:37:09 PM(edited)
The i7 costs about 50% more for 30-35% more power in ideal situations with pretty much no games falling into that category. It'll do better in a handful of games but nothing that justifies the extra $100 if you're on a budget since games just aren't threaded in a way that would adequately utilize hyperthreading on a quad core. Games tend to have 2-3 threads doing the heavy lifting and then minor stuff like decompression on any extra threads that are available.

If someone needed it for editing/rendering it's absolutely worth it, even the hex core i7s will pay for themselves in no time, but most games are gpu limited so that extra $100 is best spent there.

E: 4GB 760/770s are a waste of $50. They have less than a 1 FPS advantage at 1440p with 2gb cards coming out ahead sometimes meaning its pretty much margin of error territory.
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#12MagicSoulfire91(Topic Creator)Posted 7/4/2014 11:02:00 PM(edited)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ThvLwP
This is what im currently looking at, is there a reason to use 2 4GB sticks of RAM over 1 8GB stick? i figure the single 8GB stick gives me more room for improvement given the price for 8GB of RAM is about the same whether i buy 2 4gb or 1 8gb stick.

One last thing i can think of atm would be is the difference between a 760 and a 770 enough to warrant the extra near $100? Will there be a noticeable difference in gaming performance?
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#13Vindication123Posted 7/4/2014 11:01:18 PM
It's for dual channel, so 2x4 is fine. If you plan on upgrading to 16gb, then 1x8 would be better. Using 4 sticks of RAM tends to not be worth it for the system itself. So, 2x8 will allow you to avoid using the pagefile in most cases.
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#14Vindication123Posted 7/4/2014 11:01:20 PM
It's for dual channel, so 2x4 is fine. If you plan on upgrading to 16gb, then 1x8 would be better. Using 4 sticks of RAM tends to not be worth it for the system itself. So, 2x8 will allow you to avoid using the pagefile in most cases.
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#15SuigintouEVPosted 7/4/2014 11:03:34 PM(edited)
MagicSoulfire91 posted...
Some games i would like to be able to play (have them on steam but my current rig wont play them well.) Metro: Last light, The witcher 2 & maybe 3, civ 5, Dishonored. One other thing i was wondering is how significant is the difference between a 770 with 2GB of RAM and 4GB.


I don't think any of those games really expect more than a quad-core. You're better off putting that money into the video card. I'd go with the 4GB of VRAM as it may allow for higher quality texture mods etc... although I'm currently running a 2GB 760 and happy with that.
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#16BannedMomPosted 7/4/2014 11:05:29 PM
Hey bro! Get this, no need to get the K if you don't plan on overclocking. You save a lot of money. You are $180 below budget.

It's up to you to get 770 4gb if you want.

No need to get a sound card since every motherboard right now supports 2.1,5.1, and 7.1.
No need for the Thermal Paste since you get one free with the CPU.
Get an SSD for OS.
Toshiba HDD is good enough and Seagates are not good since they have the highest failure rates in the industry but also because they sell the most.
Just got you a cheap case, since cases aren't really important. Up to you, if you want the 300R, it's nice.
Your PSU is a no no. Never buy raidmax crap. Get the EVGA 500B.

Any cheap wireless adapter will work.

Hope this helps, if you need anything else, just post.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MxTvqs
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MxTvqs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($76.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.71 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($8.88 @ Amazon)
Total: $786.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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#17BannedMomPosted 7/4/2014 11:11:29 PM(edited)
MagicSoulfire91 posted...
Thanks for the quick replies :) looks like i will go with an i5 after all, also dropping all the useless adapters and a couple fans. Will my on board sound be fine for gaming & using with nice speakers? (im not very nit picky when it comes to audio i just dont want it to be poor quality/glitchy audio)


Good cases have fans that serve as cooling. More than 90% of people use on board. No problems.

Btw, the 760 2gb is enough for 1080p gaming. You don't need much more since it maxes most games already.
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#18MagicSoulfire91(Topic Creator)Posted 7/4/2014 11:44:42 PM
Thanks for all the advice! This is the build i think i have decided on, though i wont be able to build it for a bit so there is always room for change.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7WyDkL
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#19BannedMomPosted 7/4/2014 11:50:12 PM
Get the H97 seriously, if you don't plan on OCing the z87 is useless.

The H97 is the better choice, cheaper but newer.
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#20MagicSoulfire91(Topic Creator)Posted 7/4/2014 11:53:32 PM(edited)
Forgot about that one ;P almost made it to sub $800! Thanks for all the tips and helpful info.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NHJFK8
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