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Who, in your opinion, is the Grandfather of RPGs?

#21LMTTNPosted 7/8/2014 5:47:35 PM
AsucaHayashi posted...
Shub posted...
Final Fantasy 7.


this.

FF7 put rpgs on the map.


Role-playing games were already receiving critical acclaim and were pretty successful on PC years before Final Fantasy VII. I will say that it put console RPGs on the map, though.

Knowing the series' incredible influence, I went with Ultima. Despite knowing that, and owning the entire series on GOG, I've actually never really played them. Should I start with I or IV? I've heard the first three haven't aged that well and also are unrelated to the games from IV on.
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#22AlphaWhelp(Topic Creator)Posted 7/8/2014 6:09:58 PM
LMTTN posted...
AsucaHayashi posted...
Shub posted...
Final Fantasy 7.


this.

FF7 put rpgs on the map.


Role-playing games were already receiving critical acclaim and were pretty successful on PC years before Final Fantasy VII. I will say that it put console RPGs on the map, though.

Knowing the series' incredible influence, I went with Ultima. Despite knowing that, and owning the entire series on GOG, I've actually never really played them. Should I start with I or IV? I've heard the first three haven't aged that well and also are unrelated to the games from IV on.


The first 3 aren't terribly long games, and there is not (compared to later installments) a lot to do, so you will find it hard to waste dozens of hours on these games. As time went on the games got longer and more complex and added lots more stuff to do, but if you really want to get connected to your roots, just know it's not as huge an investment as getting into a more modern RPG. You can speed up your ability to play through the games even more by reading a FAQ, I think GameFAQs has some documents for all of the games. If you own the games on GOG, you probably also have access to the cluebooks, which will help you out even more.

that said, the ultima series is basically 3 sets of 3.
1 + 2 + 3 is one series
4 + 5 + 6 is another series
7 + 8 + 9 is another series--but 8's quality dropped dramatically and 9 is a total piece of s*** and for once consoles had nothing to do with it.

I remember when I bought them on GOG, they paid me about $2.24 to buy Ultima 9 because when I deselected it from the bundle I was buying, I lost the bundle discount and the price went up. So I let GOG pay me $2.24 to buy Ultima 9, which is, IMO, a fair price, especially considering I don't have to play it.

8 is actually not really that bad of a game, it's just such a disgraceful fall from the high bar Ultima set for itself. It's still better then a lot of other terrible RPGs that are being made today.
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#23Sum_quod_erisPosted 7/8/2014 6:12:15 PM
J. R. R. Tolkien.
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#24jedinatPosted 7/8/2014 6:45:53 PM
Garquille14 posted...
AsucaHayashi posted...
Shub posted...
Final Fantasy 7.


this.

FF7 put rpgs on the map.

lol


Yeah, I'm hoping they were joking.
#25jedinatPosted 7/8/2014 6:46:41 PM
TheEntitledOne posted...
AsucaHayashi posted...
Shub posted...
Final Fantasy 7.


this.

FF7 put rpgs on the map.

First RPG to have a story

I'm hoping you are joking. It's not even the first FF game to "have a story".
#26AlphaWhelp(Topic Creator)Posted 7/8/2014 6:47:29 PM
jedinat posted...
TheEntitledOne posted...
AsucaHayashi posted...
Shub posted...
Final Fantasy 7.


this.

FF7 put rpgs on the map.

First RPG to have a story

I'm hoping you are joking. It's not even the first FF game to "have a story".


Even Rogue had a story.
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#27akuma634Posted 7/8/2014 8:04:04 PM
I never got the whole Zelda thing as far as RPGs go. It was an action adventure game that had RPG elements like an inventory and cash system. There were quite a few NES games that did merge in RPG systems like River City Ransom and even really offbeat games like Pinball Quest.
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#28pwnater777Posted 7/8/2014 8:06:29 PM
Wasteland.
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#29SteamsterPosted 7/8/2014 8:13:19 PM
AlphaWhelp posted...
If you're thinking about being funny and trying to vote for Dungeons and Dragons, both Ultima and Wizardry were interpretations of Dungeons and Dragons as a video game, so vote for one of those.


No s*** the "grandfather" was an interpretation of Dungeons and Dragons. D&D is STILL influencing modern day RPG design to this day.

I obviously think D&D is the grandfather, because despite not being a video game it set the foundation that everybody followed.
#30RhymefestPosted 7/8/2014 8:30:01 PM
Gary Gygax?
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