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I'm getting frustrated by CPU bottlenecks, considering upgrading.

#1gsf4lyfePosted 7/17/2014 3:24:11 PM
PC in sig, and as you can see the CPU is a little weak. It is very noticeable in CPU bound games or games where only 1 or 2 cores are used. The main thing that bothers me is it seems to cause fluctuations in framerate, not just consistently low frames.

I'm really thinking about pulling the trigger on a 4670 and a new motherboard. If I were to do that I don't know if I should go for a z97 board, or go with a universally well reviewed z87 board. Or if I should just wait for Broadwell.
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FX 6300 @ 4.0Ghz | GTX 760 | AsRock 970 Extreme3 | 120 GB 840 EVO | 2x4GB RAM @ 1600Mhz | CX 500m
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#2JonWood007Posted 7/17/2014 4:07:16 PM(edited)
I'd wait for broadwell or skylake.

Also, what games you having problems with?

I notice since getting rid of that faulty 580 that dropped dead on me that I only get CPU bottlenecks in a handful of games...a lot of issues I used to link to my CPU were caused by a bad GPU. Stuff like Planetside 2 and Battlefield 4 are the only games that really give me CPU issues now.
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Desktop: Phenom II X4 965 | 8 GB DDR3 | GTX 760 SC | 1 TB HDD | W7 | 650W Antec | 1600x900
Laptop: A6 3400m | 4 GB DDR3 | HD 6520g | 500 GB HDD | W7 | 1366x768
#3gsf4lyfe(Topic Creator)Posted 7/17/2014 4:15:09 PM
JonWood007 posted...
I'd wait for broadwell or skylake.

Also, what games you having problems with?

I notice since getting rid of that faulty 580 that dropped dead on me that I only get CPU bottlenecks in a handful of games...a lot of issues I used to link to my CPU were caused by a bad GPU. Stuff like Planetside 2 and Battlefield 4 are the only games that really give me CPU issues now.


Total War games
Dragon Age Origins
Deus Ex HR
DiRT series

Several others but can't recall them right now. Every time I experience this I do a little research and it usually is the case that it's a CPU intensive game that is giving me issues. I don't think it's my GPU because some games that are graphically demanding will run at really good framerates (Far Cry 3, Tomb Raider, Sleeping Dogs).
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FX 6300 @ 4.0Ghz | GTX 760 | AsRock 970 Extreme3 | 120 GB 840 EVO | 2x4GB RAM @ 1600Mhz | CX 500m
SteamID: gsf4lyfe
#4NingishzidaPosted 7/17/2014 4:22:33 PM
gsf4lyfe posted...
Dragon Age Origins


This game runs on a toaster, set affinity to one core.
#5g7g7g7g7Posted 7/17/2014 4:34:50 PM
Deus Ex HR ran at 80fps+ on my old phenom, so did dragon age 2 so they aren't being held back by your CPU

Use MSI afterburner to log info and check it, pay attention to CPU1 only as it's the one that will take a battering.

As for Total war games, yeah maybe going intel would help, but by how much performance and for how much money? Would an extra 15 frames for $300 be a sound investment.

DiRT 3 again ran at over 80fps on my old 4 core AMD, and runs at 100+ on my 8320, so that shouldn't be being held back by your CPU either.
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#6NingishzidaPosted 7/17/2014 4:41:50 PM
g7g7g7g7 posted...
As for Total war games, yeah maybe going intel would help, but by how much performance and for how much money? Would an extra 15 frames for $300 be a sound investment.


Uh, if he spends $300 on an overcloackable Haswell refresh he's gonna get more than +15fps.
#7rupok93Posted 7/17/2014 4:47:36 PM
if you buy like a i7 4770k you and oc to like 4ghz you shouldn't have issues for like 4-5 years. You can get a combo for like $400 off microcenter.
#8gsf4lyfe(Topic Creator)Posted 7/17/2014 6:57:33 PM
g7g7g7g7 posted...
Deus Ex HR ran at 80fps+ on my old phenom, so did dragon age 2 so they aren't being held back by your CPU

Use MSI afterburner to log info and check it, pay attention to CPU1 only as it's the one that will take a battering.

As for Total war games, yeah maybe going intel would help, but by how much performance and for how much money? Would an extra 15 frames for $300 be a sound investment.

DiRT 3 again ran at over 80fps on my old 4 core AMD, and runs at 100+ on my 8320, so that shouldn't be being held back by your CPU either.


Huh, guess I should probably do a little more diagnostic work.
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FX 6300 @ 4.0Ghz | GTX 760 | AsRock 970 Extreme3 | 120 GB 840 EVO | 2x4GB RAM @ 1600Mhz | CX 500m
SteamID: gsf4lyfe
#9The_Count_FooPosted 7/17/2014 7:02:27 PM
Get an aftermarket cooler and overclock your CPU to around 4.4GHz-4.6GHz. FX CPUs are designed to be overclocked.
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#10JonWood007Posted 7/17/2014 7:14:23 PM
Deus ex is the only one I am comment on...try lowering settings a bit. I havent tried it on my 760, but I know I had to turn stuff down on my old 580.
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