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Narrowed laptop choice down to these two, opinions?

#1Greendragon854Posted 8/8/2014 11:26:16 AM
Getting a laptop for a Computer Science degree (with minor in digital media) I've been trying to decide on some different laptops. In my research I've learned never, ever get an HP laptop (which is what my last choice was. Bah)

There is this little guy:
http://www.costco.com/Toshiba-Satellite-S55T-Touchscreen-Laptop-%7c-Intel-Core-i7-%7c-Backlit-Keyboard-%7c-1080p.product.100127915.html

I feel that's a good mix of everything. It has basically all I need for classes and programming. Should work well for digital media as well, right?

Or, there's THIS guy:
http://www.costco.com/Toshiba-Satellite-P55T-4K-Ultra-HD-Touchscreen-Laptop-%7c-Intel-Core-i7-%7c-2GB-Graphics-%7c-Blu-Ray-Writer-%7c-Backlit-Keyboard.product.100120709.html

It's also got discrete graphics, and apparently has an incredible monitor. It's like 500 dollars more, and I can't really see any reason I'd need a 4k monitor. But it's just...so nice.

I'm going with costco because their return policy. The prices are fairly ok, but none of their machines seem to have a graphics card (besides the 4k one). Thoughts? Would there be any reason at all the second one would be worth the extra money to me for my degree?
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#2DRAGON07891230Posted 8/8/2014 11:44:46 AM
A 4k display with windows is going to give you a bad time.
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#3Sora_AnbuPosted 8/8/2014 11:46:02 AM
... I say go cheap.
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#4DRAGON07891230Posted 8/8/2014 11:53:27 AM
To elaborate, windows has poor HiDPI scaling:
"The main problem Iíve been having with running my machines with a resolution of 3840x2160óon any of the 4K screens Iíve testedóis that you always end up having to use desktop scaling to make anything actually readable on such a high resolution, and desktop scaling simply doesn't work for everything. Keeping your desktop at a straight 1:1 ratio leaves everything from text to icons far too small to be in any way usable on anything that isnít a massive 40-inch display. On the 24, 28 and 30-inch panels Iíve been testing, theyíre awkwardly miniscule.

No issue then, all you have to do is go into the Windows Display settings and set it up to 150% or so. Job done.

Ahh, would that it were so simple. Windows and its own icons and text will scale happily and look glorious on your shiny 4K monitor. Third-party applications, like Chrome and Steam, on the other hand look blurry and indistinct. Even Microsoftís own Skype For Desktop canít cope with the superior res."

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/06/05/the-secret-problem-with-4k-display-scaling/#null
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#5Greendragon854(Topic Creator)Posted 8/8/2014 12:23:21 PM
DRAGON07891230 posted...
To elaborate, windows has poor HiDPI scaling:
"The main problem Iíve been having with running my machines with a resolution of 3840x2160óon any of the 4K screens Iíve testedóis that you always end up having to use desktop scaling to make anything actually readable on such a high resolution, and desktop scaling simply doesn't work for everything. Keeping your desktop at a straight 1:1 ratio leaves everything from text to icons far too small to be in any way usable on anything that isnít a massive 40-inch display. On the 24, 28 and 30-inch panels Iíve been testing, theyíre awkwardly miniscule.

No issue then, all you have to do is go into the Windows Display settings and set it up to 150% or so. Job done.

Ahh, would that it were so simple. Windows and its own icons and text will scale happily and look glorious on your shiny 4K monitor. Third-party applications, like Chrome and Steam, on the other hand look blurry and indistinct. Even Microsoftís own Skype For Desktop canít cope with the superior res."

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/06/05/the-secret-problem-with-4k-display-scaling/#null


This was incredibly useful, thank you. I knew the scaling was bad, and very few windows applications even go there. I was going to dual boot with linux since I have some IT classes to take as well, but I don't know how linux handles 4k either.

I'll go with the cheaper one!
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#6DRAGON07891230Posted 8/8/2014 12:42:47 PM
Depends on the distro, desktop, and the apps. I have a 2560x1600 display, GNOME handled it well, and after a lot of tweaking, so did KDE. With Chromium, setting global zoom to 200% made it work, but the url and bookmarks bar is super tiny, and probably wouldn't be legible at all on a 4k display.
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