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Keep getting blue screens (maybe 1 every 2-3 days). No idea whats wrong

#11BilliePilgrimPosted 8/10/2014 2:31:36 AM
cnfjti3 posted...
I've had that problem before, it's bad ram.

If you are using 2 ram sticks, take one out, try it out. Take the other one out, and try it. If one stick runs stable, you'll know which ram is screwy.


Or do it right and run memtest86+ for each stick.
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#12Xa3r0x(Topic Creator)Posted 8/10/2014 9:25:22 AM
Psythik posted...
Dragnfyr posted...
Looks like an unstable overclock. Reset your CPU to stock or increase the Vcore and do real stability testing with Prime95 and Intel Burn Test.
The last thing you want to do is run stress tests on a Haswell chip. They're connected to the heat spreader with thermal paste instead of soldier like most chips, which means that stress testing can cause the paste to dry out, raising temps and potentially destroying your CPU. AFAIK The only way to test a Haswell OC without worrying about frying your chip is to do real-world tests, like a long gaming session. That, or void your warranty and delid it.


I've never gotten a blue screen from long gaming sessions. I've gotten blue screens within 5 minutes of starting up a game though, multiple times. And usually get blue screens when I have two or more videos running at once (Twitch on one monitor, youtube on another). I put my CPU back to default settings. I will try running memtest for each ram stick and see what the problem is. The ram and harddrive are the only hardware I am using from my previous build.
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#13WerdnAndreWPosted 8/10/2014 9:37:05 AM
Psythik posted...
Dragnfyr posted...
Looks like an unstable overclock. Reset your CPU to stock or increase the Vcore and do real stability testing with Prime95 and Intel Burn Test.
The last thing you want to do is run stress tests on a Haswell chip. They're connected to the heat spreader with thermal paste instead of soldier like most chips, which means that stress testing can cause the paste to dry out, raising temps and potentially destroying your CPU. AFAIK The only way to test a Haswell OC without worrying about frying your chip is to do real-world tests, like a long gaming session. That, or void your warranty and delid it.


So all Haswell cpus are defective? It will be fine if you're within their operating temperature range.
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#14DragnfyrPosted 8/10/2014 9:58:37 AM
Psythik posted...
Dragnfyr posted...
Looks like an unstable overclock. Reset your CPU to stock or increase the Vcore and do real stability testing with Prime95 and Intel Burn Test.
The last thing you want to do is run stress tests on a Haswell chip. They're connected to the heat spreader with thermal paste instead of soldier like most chips, which means that stress testing can cause the paste to dry out, raising temps and potentially destroying your CPU. AFAIK The only way to test a Haswell OC without worrying about frying your chip is to do real-world tests, like a long gaming session. That, or void your warranty and delid it.


No. Stress tests are fine to run. You just don't want to run them on auto-voltage or else you'll get massive voltage spikes which will cause overheating and damage. As long as you set the voltage manually to a reasonable number (usually less than 1.3-1.35V) your operating temperature in Prime95 and Intel Burn Test should be in the 70-80C range which is well within below the thermal limit. That's assuming you have a decent aftermarket heatsink. If you're using the stock cooler you should not be overclocking a Haswell chip.
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#15DragnfyrPosted 8/10/2014 9:59:57 AM
Xa3r0x posted...
Psythik posted...
Dragnfyr posted...
Looks like an unstable overclock. Reset your CPU to stock or increase the Vcore and do real stability testing with Prime95 and Intel Burn Test.
The last thing you want to do is run stress tests on a Haswell chip. They're connected to the heat spreader with thermal paste instead of soldier like most chips, which means that stress testing can cause the paste to dry out, raising temps and potentially destroying your CPU. AFAIK The only way to test a Haswell OC without worrying about frying your chip is to do real-world tests, like a long gaming session. That, or void your warranty and delid it.


I've never gotten a blue screen from long gaming sessions. I've gotten blue screens within 5 minutes of starting up a game though, multiple times. And usually get blue screens when I have two or more videos running at once (Twitch on one monitor, youtube on another). I put my CPU back to default settings. I will try running memtest for each ram stick and see what the problem is. The ram and harddrive are the only hardware I am using from my previous build.


If you're getting BSODs at any point you're unstable. I'm assuming you've done no real stress testing?
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#16ArkonBladePosted 8/10/2014 11:46:01 AM
sounds like it could be a bad stick of Ram.
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#17Xa3r0x(Topic Creator)Posted 8/10/2014 8:25:57 PM
I'm pretty sure it's the RAM. I put my CPU back to stock speeds and still blue screened.
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#18BilliePilgrimPosted 8/14/2014 11:43:43 AM
Xa3r0x posted...
I'm pretty sure it's the RAM. I put my CPU back to stock speeds and still blue screened.


http://www.memtest.org/
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#19Xa3r0x(Topic Creator)Posted 8/14/2014 3:49:37 PM
Ok so I ran the memtest and it passed.. It found no errors. Not completely sure what to do now.
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#20BilliePilgrimPosted 8/14/2014 9:45:29 PM
Xa3r0x posted...
Ok so I ran the memtest and it passed.. It found no errors. Not completely sure what to do now.


How many times and how long? I ran the program a few times on each stick in my wife's computer before the bad one failed. The whole process took several hours.

Try installing your OS on a different drive. Uninstall your GPU and use on board video.

Basically. Start isolating individual parts and either run your computer without them if possible, test them, or both.
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