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Are steam only games inmune to piracy?

#91The cranky hermitPosted 8/20/2014 1:05:51 PM
And yet, in spite of your armchair philosophizing on "human nature", he or she is right - many of the people who pirate games would never have bought those titles in the first place.

Either you are committing false dichotomy, or what you just said here has absolutely nothing to do with the claim you think you're defending. He didn't say "many would never buy." He said the de facto pirate wouldn't buy.

The assumption that all of those people would, without a doubt, have purchased a copy of the game - had they not pirated it - is a fallacy all on its own. Not to mention an incredibly presumptuous notion on behalf of the companies selling them.

The assumption that anyone is assuming this is a fallacy all on its own. Not to mention an incredibly presumptuous notion on behalf of the pirates who think this is a clever argument that makes them smarter than the companies, who couldn't POSSIBLY understand enough about marketing to realize this. It's not like they spend any time or effort thinking about things like this, right?

Please get this through your head - no company has ever made that assumption. Nor have I. This is a ridiculous myth perpetuated by bright boys who skim over articles about piracy and then go straight to the comments section without applying even the smallest amount of actual scrutiny.

Get this through your head as well - it should be fairly obvious that SOME pirated copies DO represent lost sales. The exact number really isn't that important, for most intents and purposes. With that in mind, the point you wrongly defended is wrong, and your post is moot.
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#92DaedalusExPosted 8/20/2014 1:11:39 PM
The cranky hermit posted...
The exact number really isn't that important, for most intents and purposes.


Why isn't it important?
#93YogaPantsLoverPosted 8/20/2014 1:14:21 PM
"The assumption that all of those people would, without a doubt, have purchased a copy of the game - had they not pirated it - is a fallacy all on its own. Not to mention an incredibly presumptuous notion on behalf of the companies selling them."

This should be listed in encyclopedias under the definition for "strawman argument."
#94Bane766Posted 8/20/2014 1:16:55 PM
They have modded X1 and PS4's out there...also Vita's. So yeah even the newer consoles have pirated games.
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#95YogaPantsLoverPosted 8/20/2014 1:26:46 PM
Piracy is still frowned amongst most console gamers.

PC gamers celebrate piracy as the civil rights movement of the 21st century, downtrodden freedom fighters fighting against the fascist tyranny of DRM. They're pretentious as sin.
#96KillerTrufflePosted 8/20/2014 1:30:50 PM
YogaPantsLover posted...
Piracy is still frowned amongst most console gamers.

PC gamers celebrate piracy as the civil rights movement of the 21st century, downtrodden freedom fighters fighting against the fascist tyranny of DRM. They're pretentious as sin.


No more pretentious than you are wrong...

Guarantee the only reason piracy might be more common on PC than console is that it's easier. That's it. You're smokin' a plantation if you're trying to claim console gamers somehow have more moral fiber than PC gamers.
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#97YogaPantsLoverPosted 8/20/2014 1:33:25 PM
Nobody defends piracy as strongly as PC gamers.
#98SinisterSlayPosted 8/20/2014 1:37:48 PM
YogaPantsLover posted...
Piracy is still frowned amongst most console gamers.

PC gamers celebrate piracy as the civil rights movement of the 21st century, downtrodden freedom fighters fighting against the fascist tyranny of DRM. They're pretentious as sin.


I wish you were wrong....
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#99TimePharaohPosted 8/20/2014 1:39:06 PM
YogaPantsLover posted...
Piracy is still frowned amongst most console gamers.

PC gamers celebrate piracy as the civil rights movement of the 21st century, downtrodden freedom fighters fighting against the fascist tyranny of DRM. They're pretentious as sin.


He says as he looks at his stack of used games that he purchased and didn't give any money to the developers for
#100YogaPantsLoverPosted 8/20/2014 1:40:11 PM
TimePharaoh posted...
YogaPantsLover posted...
Piracy is still frowned amongst most console gamers.

PC gamers celebrate piracy as the civil rights movement of the 21st century, downtrodden freedom fighters fighting against the fascist tyranny of DRM. They're pretentious as sin.


He says as he looks at his stack of used games that he purchased and didn't give any money to the developers for


Thank you for helping to prove my point that PC gamers are the biggest apologists of piracy.

At least used games can be traded in for new games.