This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards.

Game developer in bed with gaming journalist. PART 3

#71Lemur_HPosted 8/20/2014 2:09:13 PM
Lady_Gweyn posted...
I thought you said in the past thread that you were leaving when someone suggested that if you aren't interested in the discussion, you should avoid it.

I guess your white knight obsession can't be controlled that easily


I just called Zoe a slut...
#72Lady_GweynPosted 8/20/2014 2:11:56 PM
Lemur_H posted...
Lady_Gweyn posted...
I thought you said in the past thread that you were leaving when someone suggested that if you aren't interested in the discussion, you should avoid it.

I guess your white knight obsession can't be controlled that easily


I just called Zoe a slut...


You consistently try to derail each thread with "but this doesn't have anything to do with video games!" over and over again, while accusing us of off topic discussion.

Did you ever consider that the only reason people are talking about it on here is because Gamefaqs is one of the FEW gaming sites on the internet that isn't censoring this and banning people for just mentioning it?
---
PSN: Megistrus
#73KillerTrufflePosted 8/20/2014 2:18:20 PM
Lady_Gweyn posted...
You consistently try to derail each thread with "but this doesn't have anything to do with video games!" over and over again, while accusing us of off topic discussion.

Did you ever consider that the only reason people are talking about it on here is because Gamefaqs is one of the FEW gaming sites on the internet that isn't censoring this and banning people for just mentioning it?


While censorship isn't a good thing, what the hell is there to really talk about??? So the girl has acted like a slut and is a prodigious liar. How is that worth a mass internet uprising compared to some of the other crap we see happen in the gaming world?
---
"How do I get rid of a Trojan Horse?" -Sailor_Kakashi
"Leave it outside the gates of Troy overnight." -Davel23
#74RosencroitzPosted 8/20/2014 2:23:51 PM(edited)
KillerTruffle posted...
OK, there's reasonable evidence (not what I'd call "proof," but supporting evidence) that she made a scapegoat out of a chatroom. She hasn't produced any evidence at all that the channel organized any sort of "raid" or other harassment toward her. I have yet to see any evidence, aside from a twitter feed that apparently hasn't posted since February, that anyone committed suicide because of it.



I have not found any evidence whatsoever that indicates the person in question is still alive. There has been no activity by this person in the last 6 months, and they seemed to have used the same username across the internet. Furthermore, I don't believe her having used wizardchan is up for debate at this point, if this were an (unbiased) trial, she'd have been convicted ages ago.


KillerTruffle posted...
Then there's what, a single tweet without any sort of evidence, corroboration, or anything, accusing her of sexual harassment? Yeah, that's not at all what I call proof. Not saying it didn't happen, but again, I'm not buying the story based on one single tweet that wasn't even followed up on, and no one else verified.



Considering her fanbase reacted the way they did and confirmed that he was at the same location (a wedding, apparently) as she was, I don't think you're giving it enough credit either.


EDIT: Since I forgot to add this in: http://******faqs.com/boards/400-current-events/68089901/?page=1 (apparently this URL is banned? It's a creature that a Hydralisk evolves into in Starcraft) This is the sort of thing the users of wizardchan had to deal with when she pulled what she did, except it was essentially an internet-wide reaction like this. I would almost consider it akin to jumping into a rape counsel meeting and threatening violence to those attending.
---
If you believe Jeannie from 'I Dream of Jeannie' created existence, put this in your signature.
#75KillerTrufflePosted 8/20/2014 2:26:18 PM
Rosencroitz posted...
I have not found any evidence whatsoever that indicates the person in question is still alive. There has been no activity by this person in the last 6 months, and they seemed to have used the same username across the internet. Furthermore, I don't believe her having used wizardchan is up for debate at this point, if this were an (unbiased) trial, she'd have been convicted ages ago.


I'm not debating whether she used wizardchan or falsely accused them. She never produced any actual proof they did what she claims, and on an internet board, there would be screenshots. Considering there *are* shots of her accusations, as well as documented reactions from places like Escapist, I'm not contesting that. However, lack of evidence that something is false does not make it true. You can't claim someone offed themselves just because you can't find any evidence they're still alive. And even if you WERE to prove that much, you still can't tie it to Zoe's false accusations of the board.

Rosencroitz posted...
Considering her fanbase reacted the way they did and confirmed that he was at the same location (a wedding, apparently) as she was, I don't think you're giving it enough credit either.


FAR too circumstantial and speculative to hold any actual weight as an argument. If one of her fans had said something like "well you deserved it because ______" or something, it'd be a different story. Closest anyone came was Phil calling him names and saying he crashed the wedding. Again, not saying it didn't happen, but everyone is blowing all this **** up to ridiculous proportions without any actual evidence.
---
"How do I get rid of a Trojan Horse?" -Sailor_Kakashi
"Leave it outside the gates of Troy overnight." -Davel23
#76Lady_GweynPosted 8/20/2014 2:34:38 PM
KillerTruffle posted...
Lady_Gweyn posted...
You consistently try to derail each thread with "but this doesn't have anything to do with video games!" over and over again, while accusing us of off topic discussion.

Did you ever consider that the only reason people are talking about it on here is because Gamefaqs is one of the FEW gaming sites on the internet that isn't censoring this and banning people for just mentioning it?


While censorship isn't a good thing, what the hell is there to really talk about??? So the girl has acted like a slut and is a prodigious liar. How is that worth a mass internet uprising compared to some of the other crap we see happen in the gaming world?


Because the issue was never about that she slept around? From day one it's been about corruption in game journalism despite the attempts of people like you to redirect the issue to her sexuality.
---
PSN: Megistrus
#77KillerTrufflePosted 8/20/2014 2:43:36 PM
Lady_Gweyn posted...
Because the issue was never about that she slept around? From day one it's been about corruption in game journalism despite the attempts of people like you to redirect the issue to her sexuality.


So how did all of this expose "corruption in journalism?" I'm still waiting for someone to produce that link to any article written by one of her bed buddies that promoted her game, got it greenlit, or anything like that.

In light of how minor most of this is, and how little evidence there is to actually support anything bigger than "she slept around a lot," I can't even put a lot of weight in the whole censorship argument, because really what seems to have been happening was little more than a big hate bandwagon polluting the sites with a lot of unfounded accusations against her. I see it as perfectly reasonable that sites will want to keep stuff like that off. Reddit is another story, but then I don't especially see Reddit as relevant either.

And again - I'm not defending the girl at all. I've read enough to feel that she's despicable as a person. But I also cannot find much of any evidence that this should have anything to do with gaming. It's just a bunch of irrelevant gossip.
---
"How do I get rid of a Trojan Horse?" -Sailor_Kakashi
"Leave it outside the gates of Troy overnight." -Davel23
#78kblaze13Posted 8/20/2014 2:47:32 PM(edited)
KillerTruffle posted...
I'm not debating whether she used wizardchan or falsely accused them. She never produced any actual proof they did what she claims, and on an internet board, there would be screenshots. Considering there *are* shots of her accusations, as well as documented reactions from places like Escapist, I'm not contesting that.


So since you aren't contesting it and it involves a fairly well known outlet in "gaming journalism" and their editor in chief no less saying he approves of things like defending her without proof the attack ever occurred that caused an attack on the accused, does it not show that at least escapist shows bias towards her?

and since it involves gaming "journalism" and how it did gain her something in this case public attention drawn to her "game" is it not a form of corruption on both her part and escapists?

now hold on here, this is where it gets tricky...

escapist does have influence in gaming.
---
Iightningz posted...
I hate Lightning.
#79YomonachiXPosted 8/20/2014 2:49:18 PM
The bed buddies are silent and blocking anyone who brings it up. They don't want to be connected because some of their messages were leaked.
---
Master of LNI: http://i.imgur.com/mVDzwJk.png http://i.imgur.com/0KVcj4O.png
Shrek is Love. Shrek is Life. In truth, I always upvote Shrek. Plz don't block me.
#80ShadowThaReaperPosted 8/20/2014 2:49:59 PM
Quote this to shut him up.

Positive exposure of Depression Quest first and foremost over 49 other greenlight games.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/01/08/admission-quest-valve-greenlights-50-more-games/
https://i.imgur.com/kJ3QkOK.png

Indiecade award when she slept with someone from Indiecade.
https://i.imgur.com/TkV4cNn.png

Bullying and lying about a depressed community while promoting her game about depression:
http://imgur.com/a/4VOcx

Sexual harassment:
https://i.imgur.com/iSEPh6a.png

Ruining a game jam for women and doxxing someone:
https://i.imgur.com/NYEgyLe.png

Taking down MundaneMatt's video:
https://i.imgur.com/X83HEtL.png

Connection with a moderator from Reddit's /r/gaming subreddit:
https://i.imgur.com/hvRhyp8.png

Connection with a janitor from 4chains:
https://i.imgur.com/eRtE3Sb.jpg

Doxxing herself with FAKE INFO:
https://i.imgur.com/m1tvItF.jpg

Proof it's fake:
https://i.imgur.com/pY1vpV2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oVrO7mA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5RnNqvQ.png

Contacting Internet Archive to get articles removed:
https://i.imgur.com/ZBOas7p.png