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Game developer in bed with gaming journalist. PART 4

#1RanguePosted 8/21/2014 3:31:10 PM(edited)
If you are just joining us, whooo boy, have you stepped into the middle of a scandal. The extremely watered down TL;DR is as follows.

What Zoe Quinn did:
-Slept with people in the industry who could affect her success as a game developer.
-Ruined a Womens Game Jam charity out of spite because it was competing with her's, which was funneling donations into her own pocket.
-Lied about being Doxxed when she was the one doing it
-Lied about harassment from a forum of depressed suicidal virgins
-DMCA'ed youtube
-Contacted internet archive to atempt to censor information
-Sexual harassed a gentleman at a wedding

What others did for Zoe:
-Gave an indiecade award to her game after one of the award chairs slept with her.
-Wrote articles with 0 proof based upon things she said.
-Kotaku is protecting one of its journalists who slept with her, and then wrote a piece singling her out for attention without ever disclosing their relationship.
-Attacked the man who came forward about being sexually harassed at a wedding until he redacted.
-Deleted threads on 4chan and Reddit
-A professional PR rep was caught defending her on reddit.

Now then, for proof, to see just how huge and twisted this all is, links will be in my next post.
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#2Rangue(Topic Creator)Posted 8/21/2014 3:30:02 PM
The TL;DR that exposed this all:
http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/

Positive exposure of Depression Quest first and foremost over 49 other greenlight games.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/01/08/admission-quest-valve-greenlights-50-more-games/
https://i.imgur.com/kJ3QkOK.png

Kotaku protecting a journalist who slept with Zoe then wrote a positive piece about her:
https://i.imgur.com/PJZUM00.png

Indiecade award when she slept with someone from Indiecade.
https://i.imgur.com/TkV4cNn.png

Bullying and lying about a depressed community while promoting her game about depression:
http://imgur.com/a/4VOcx

Sexual harassment:
https://i.imgur.com/iSEPh6a.png
http://i.imgur.com/F49yatT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mjxRk6Y.jpg

Ruining a game jam for women and doxxing someone:
https://i.imgur.com/NYEgyLe.png
https://soundcloud.com/super-admin/tfyc-confession
http://www.thefineyoungcapitalists.com/Voting

Taking down MundaneMatt's video:
https://i.imgur.com/X83HEtL.png

Connection with a moderator from Reddit's /r/gaming subreddit:
https://i.imgur.com/hvRhyp8.png

Connection with a janitor from 4chains:
https://i.imgur.com/eRtE3Sb.jpg

Doxxing herself with FAKE INFO:
https://i.imgur.com/m1tvItF.jpg

Proof it's fake:
https://i.imgur.com/pY1vpV2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oVrO7mA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5RnNqvQ.png

Contacting Internet Archive to get articles removed:
https://i.imgur.com/ZBOas7p.png

Proof of PR guys atempting to do damage control for Zoe:
https://i.imgur.com/kNPLTqo.jpg
http://www.reddit.com/r/ZKConspiracy/comments/2e63hm/the_plot_thickens_the_user_sauropodcast_is/

Funneling money into her own private account from donations for reble game jam:
https://i.imgur.com/hGWiPoa.jpg

People from the industry even donate to her:
http://www.patreon.com/zoe

Notable people who donated:
Vlambeer, which is made up of this guy. - https://i.imgur.com/H5j5zul.jpg
Phillippe Poisson who is actually PHIL FISH! - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Fish
Anthony Burch - https://i.imgur.com/yIg74M7.jpg
Ben Kuchera - https://i.imgur.com/PMiwVN4.png

Reddit suppression:
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2dz0gs/totalbiscuit_discusses_the_state_of_games/
http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/2dt5hu/depression_quest_dev_claims_harassment_and
http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/2dyebw/quinnspiracy_theory_the_five_guys_saga/
http://i.imgur.com/FuWGETH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/U1ytwbv.png

/r/ response to suppression:
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2dzrlv/on_zoe_quinn_censorship_doxxing_and_general/

Subreddit banned:
http://i.imgur.com/oR5ACl6.png

Assorted:
Twitter "Blow over": https://i.imgur.com/J0FeyUJ.png
Wife of man she cheated posts: http://i.imgur.com/6urpLt5.png
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#3LordSeiferPosted 8/21/2014 3:30:27 PM
but why should I care?


spoilers: no reason, i do not.
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#4LightHawKnightPosted 8/21/2014 3:31:03 PM
Well, time to post in part 4.
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#5KillerTrufflePosted 8/21/2014 3:31:36 PM
Rangue posted...
Completely false, the correction to the timeline actually supports us.

https://i.imgur.com/PJZUM00.png

Why do you keep lying about the facts? I asked you this before


Lying about what?

His original timeline said their break was April 1-7 or whatever. She was cheating with Nathan before their break. That meant it *had* to be in March, which placed it without question before he wrote his game jam article.

His correction said the break was May-June, and he simply said he had no evidence that she started doing Nathan prior to sometime between late March to early April. The fact that early April is a possibility makes that entire argument weaker than it was before.

No lies... just logic.
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#6Rangue(Topic Creator)Posted 8/21/2014 3:32:31 PM
LordSeifer posted...
but why should I care?


spoilers: no reason, i do not.


Do you like video games? If so you should care about the integrity of video game reporting, and the nepotistic nature of game journalists.

If you do not like video games, then yah, no reason to care.
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#7SlamslatePosted 8/21/2014 3:33:12 PM(edited)
No Dignity.

Keep up the good fight TC.
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#8ein311Posted 8/21/2014 3:34:20 PM(edited)
KillerTruffle posted...
Most of the stuff Zoe has done, including... DMCA takedowns, etc. just make her a stupid lowlife, but don't actually have a significant effect on the industry as a whole.


I'd disagree with you on that point, simply because successfully abusing DMCA claims to take down content is a pretty ongoing problem and while this incident isn't worthy of being made its own story, it is one good use-case example.

TotalBiscuit's been a victim of it before, and he had been attacked by Zoe supporters for his relatively neutral stance on this whole thing, while focusing on his disapproval of DMCA abuse. He's a popular figure in the gaming industry so that mention has some merit.
To illustrate his neutrality, he was skeptical that the DMCA notices were actually made by Zoe since he acknowledged the relative ease of abusing the claim system (specifically on YouTube), but still detests the entire thing as unfair to the YouTubers and fair use in general.

Overall, though, the conversation should shift from her promiscuity over to the industry-related BS this has uncovered, and should be a wider-reaching conversation at this point.

For people following this, her personal image is no longer an issue up for debate, as we've all see she's not a glowing bastion of integrity, but we don't really need to keep hammering that point.

edit: changed "free speech" to "fair use" since this is a more accurate term to use in this kind of situation.
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#9Tucker_BAPosted 8/21/2014 3:34:37 PM
ein311 posted...
Overall, though, the conversation should shift from her promiscuity over to the industry-related BS this has uncovered, and should be a wider-reaching conversation at this point.


This. Enough of Zoe already, I've been saying this since the first topic.
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#10KillerTrufflePosted 8/21/2014 3:34:42 PM
Rangue posted...
integrity of video game reporting, and the nepotistic nature of game journalists.


You're implying that journalism has any sort of chance at integrity? OK, now you're just being silly.

We've known for ages there was no integrity in journalism. Nothing has changed here.
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