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Prominent PC indie developer in bed with gaming journalists, and other devs Pt.2

#111Lunitik MuzikPosted 8/29/2014 2:00:28 PM
Haven't seen this posted, seems worthwhile though...

Game Journalist here.

I work for a major site, not saying which one since my silence on all of this is obvious even to my co-workers. It'd make it way too obvious who I was.

To put it bluntly; you're winning. Advertisers have contacted our site, and I know they've contacted others, and they're ****ing pissed. This **** has gone on longer than anyone has expected it to, and it's beginning to affect the brands of people associated with ours and other sites. They want it to stop. And the bosses of these sites are scared; adblock has already cut deep into the money our site makes, and I know it's slicing hard into others.

This has translated in the minds of most of my 'associates' as 'make them stop no matter what', hence all these '**** gamer' articles. They're trying to push as hard as they can in hopes everyone backs down. The most important thing to do now is not to back down. They're shooting themselves in the foot. Save any screencaps of anything crazy anyone says, and just repost it forever. Spread it around. Get it onto social media. Spread adblock. Spread advertiser contact. The single most effective thing you can do is contact advertisers. Even 10 letters can get them to call us.

I sure as **** don't care what happens to us; I finish getting my second degree next year and I'm out anyway. Let it burn.

Also; **** the escapist.


Also this...

Alternatively, I work for one of the companies that handles the advertising and it's been the best two weeks of my jobs ever

You have to understand, these people are middle aged men who know literally nothing about video games, they just care about the money and clicks per view and impressions the ads have made (impressions are sort of like how many people have seen it I guess)

You should have seen my boss absolutely blow his left nut sack after seeing some of the emails, especially the Faraci dude went all pro-isis - nothing short of magical.

I guess you guys send in more than you realise because the office has been frantic handling emails, some tweet screencaps we see so many times a day we begin to know them off by heart, me and the guy who works along from me have a tally going down and the hot ginge behind us is taking part.

Anyway keep going, even if it doesn't work out it's absolutely made my job so much better
#112RosencroitzPosted 8/29/2014 2:09:18 PM
Lunitik Muzik posted...
Haven't seen this posted, seems worthwhile though...

Game Journalist here.

I work for a major site, not saying which one since my silence on all of this is obvious even to my co-workers. It'd make it way too obvious who I was.

To put it bluntly; you're winning. Advertisers have contacted our site, and I know they've contacted others, and they're ****ing pissed. This **** has gone on longer than anyone has expected it to, and it's beginning to affect the brands of people associated with ours and other sites. They want it to stop. And the bosses of these sites are scared; adblock has already cut deep into the money our site makes, and I know it's slicing hard into others.

This has translated in the minds of most of my 'associates' as 'make them stop no matter what', hence all these '**** gamer' articles. They're trying to push as hard as they can in hopes everyone backs down. The most important thing to do now is not to back down. They're shooting themselves in the foot. Save any screencaps of anything crazy anyone says, and just repost it forever. Spread it around. Get it onto social media. Spread adblock. Spread advertiser contact. The single most effective thing you can do is contact advertisers. Even 10 letters can get them to call us.

I sure as **** don't care what happens to us; I finish getting my second degree next year and I'm out anyway. Let it burn.

Also; **** the escapist.


Also this...

Alternatively, I work for one of the companies that handles the advertising and it's been the best two weeks of my jobs ever

You have to understand, these people are middle aged men who know literally nothing about video games, they just care about the money and clicks per view and impressions the ads have made (impressions are sort of like how many people have seen it I guess)

You should have seen my boss absolutely blow his left nut sack after seeing some of the emails, especially the Faraci dude went all pro-isis - nothing short of magical.

I guess you guys send in more than you realise because the office has been frantic handling emails, some tweet screencaps we see so many times a day we begin to know them off by heart, me and the guy who works along from me have a tally going down and the hot ginge behind us is taking part.

Anyway keep going, even if it doesn't work out it's absolutely made my job so much better



Hilarious.
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#113FaPaThYPosted 8/29/2014 2:09:24 PM
The endgame, for people wondering:

>EMAIL THESE ARTICLES

>'Gamers' don't have to be your audience. 'Gamers' are over. Exclusive - Leigh Alexander
https://archive.today/l1kTW

>We Might Be Witnessing The 'Death of An Identity' - Luke Plunkett
https://archive.today/YlBhH

>The End of Gamers - Dan Golding
https://archive.today/L4vJG

>A Guide to Ending "Gamers" - Devin Wilson
https://archive.today/2t93l

>The death of the “gamers” and the women who “killed” them - Casey Johnson
https://archive.today/i928J

>TO THERE RESPECTIVES SITE'S ADVERTISERS

POLYGON:

KRAFT

http://ir.kraftfoodsgroup.com/contactus.cfm- EMAIL FORM

SCOTTRADE

https://www.scottrade.com/contact/contact-form.html

eHEALTH

https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/ehi/help/emailcontact?productType=IFP&contact=IFP

VERIZON

robert.a.varettoni@verizon.com < EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MEDIA RELATIONS

raymond.mcconville@verizon.com < MANAGER OF MEDIA RELATIONS

edward.s.mcfadden@verizon.com < EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC POLICY

SMITH'S, A DIVISION OF KROGER

https://www.kroger.com/topic/contact-us
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KOTAKU:

Stacksocial
support@stacksocial.com

Ikoid
pr@ikoid.com

Best Buy
onlinestore@bestbuy.com

Indie Game
hello@dailyindiegame.com

THESE ARE SOME BETTER WAYS TO REACH THEM.

BE POLITE AND CONCERNED. FEEL FREE TO USE THE SAME EMAIL

NewEgg
Wecare@newegg.com < CUSTOMER RELATIONS EMAIL.

ELECTRONIC ARTS (LOL)
CUSTOMERSERVICE@EA.COM

MONOPRICE
SUPPORT@MONOPRICE.COM

AMAZON
JEFF@AMAZON.COM - F***ING CEO

swheeler@amazon.com - DIRECTOR OF ADVERTISING

selipsky@amazon.com - VICE PRESIDENT

BEST BUY
laura.bishop@bestbuy.com - VICE PRESIDENT OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS

GAMESTOP
Director of Public Relations JoeyMooring@Gamestop.com
PublicRelations@GameStop.com
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THE ESCAPIST (too easy):

Blizzard
pr@blizzard.com

Roccat
info@roccat.org

Best Buy
onlinestore@bestbuy.com


GENERAL FORMAT FOR WRITING LETTERS

1) Refer to them as Mr. or Mrs (yes, look it up) and their last name.
2) Introduce yourself briefly, and give some background on who you are, your experience with the company in question so far and how it relates to what you're about to say.
3) Inform them of the goings on at the website in question (talk as if you feel you're the first person to introduce this to them).
4) Express your disappointment at their association with the website
5) Explain how reluctant you are to boycott, but
6) Firmly state an ultimatum: the website or you as an individual customer.
7) Thank them for their time. Be polite.

Remember: they're spending money for advertising. They're spending money to make money. It doesn't take much of a threat of spending money to lose money to get them to cut off- especially the big ones like Amazon that needs advertising less than the website needs their advertising.

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#114FaPaThYPosted 8/29/2014 2:17:16 PM
Game Journalist here.

I work for a major site, not saying which one since my silence on all of this is obvious even to my co-workers. It'd make it way too obvious who I was.

To put it bluntly; you're winning. Advertisers have contacted our site, and I know they've contacted others, and they're f***ing pissed. This s*** has gone on longer than anyone has expected it to, and it's beginning to affect the brands of people associated with ours and other sites. They want it to stop. And the bosses of these sites are scared; adblock has already cut deep into the money our site makes, and I know it's slicing hard into others.

This has translated in the minds of most of my 'associates' as 'make them stop no matter what', hence all these 'f*** gamer' articles. They're trying to push as hard as they can in hopes everyone backs down. The most important thing to do now is not to back down. They're shooting themselves in the foot. Save any screencaps of anything crazy anyone says, and just repost it forever. Spread it around. Get it onto social media. Spread adblock. Spread advertiser contact. The single most effective thing you can do is contact advertisers. Even 10 letters can get them to call us.

I sure as f*** don't care what happens to us; I finish getting my second degree next year and I'm out anyway. Let it burn.

Also; f*** the escapist.


Alternatively, I work for one of the companies that handles the advertising and it's been the best two weeks of my jobs ever

You have to understand, these people are middle aged men who know literally nothing about video games, they just care about the money and clicks per view and impressions the ads have made (impressions are sort of like how many people have seen it I guess)

You should have seen my boss absolutely blow his left nut sack after seeing some of the emails, especially the Faraci dude went all pro-isis - nothing short of magical.

I guess you guys send in more than you realise because the office has been frantic handling emails, some tweet screencaps we see so many times a day we begin to know them off by heart, me and the guy who works along from me have a tally going down and the hot ginge behind us is taking part.

Anyway keep going, even if it doesn't work out it's absolutely made my job so much better

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#115arleasPosted 8/29/2014 2:20:31 PM
Yeah I'd say that's a good idea... Find the advertisers on these sites and contact them. Let them know you're disgusted and that you won't support any product that has anything to do with these guys. If enough people raised a fuss that would hurt kotaku pretty bad. I have always used adblock on their site but mostly because if I didn't I saw my browser speed take a nosedive as it tried to load me up with ads from 50 different directions. If their advertisers start pulling ads though, that's gonna hurt far worse than any twitter threats.
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#116Bazooka_PenguinPosted 8/29/2014 2:34:00 PM
FaPaThY posted...

>'Gamers' don't have to be your audience. 'Gamers' are over. Exclusive - Leigh Alexander
https://archive.today/l1kTW

>We Might Be Witnessing The 'Death of An Identity' - Luke Plunkett
https://archive.today/YlBhH

>The End of Gamers - Dan Golding
https://archive.today/L4vJG

>A Guide to Ending "Gamers" - Devin Wilson
https://archive.today/2t93l

>The death of the “gamers” and the women who “killed” them - Casey Johnson
https://archive.today/i928J


Those are some completely and unambiguously hostile articles. I'm surprised I haven't seen some infographics quoting them to show how vile those sites are
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#117SoporilBraceletPosted 8/29/2014 2:52:11 PM
Lunitik Muzik posted...
Haven't seen this posted, seems worthwhile though...

Game Journalist here.

I work for a major site, not saying which one since my silence on all of this is obvious even to my co-workers. It'd make it way too obvious who I was.

To put it bluntly; you're winning. Advertisers have contacted our site, and I know they've contacted others, and they're ****ing pissed. This **** has gone on longer than anyone has expected it to, and it's beginning to affect the brands of people associated with ours and other sites. They want it to stop. And the bosses of these sites are scared; adblock has already cut deep into the money our site makes, and I know it's slicing hard into others.

This has translated in the minds of most of my 'associates' as 'make them stop no matter what', hence all these '**** gamer' articles. They're trying to push as hard as they can in hopes everyone backs down. The most important thing to do now is not to back down. They're shooting themselves in the foot. Save any screencaps of anything crazy anyone says, and just repost it forever. Spread it around. Get it onto social media. Spread adblock. Spread advertiser contact. The single most effective thing you can do is contact advertisers. Even 10 letters can get them to call us.

I sure as **** don't care what happens to us; I finish getting my second degree next year and I'm out anyway. Let it burn.

Also; **** the escapist.


Also this...

Alternatively, I work for one of the companies that handles the advertising and it's been the best two weeks of my jobs ever

You have to understand, these people are middle aged men who know literally nothing about video games, they just care about the money and clicks per view and impressions the ads have made (impressions are sort of like how many people have seen it I guess)

You should have seen my boss absolutely blow his left nut sack after seeing some of the emails, especially the Faraci dude went all pro-isis - nothing short of magical.

I guess you guys send in more than you realise because the office has been frantic handling emails, some tweet screencaps we see so many times a day we begin to know them off by heart, me and the guy who works along from me have a tally going down and the hot ginge behind us is taking part.

Anyway keep going, even if it doesn't work out it's absolutely made my job so much better


I thought she might've been going to get away with it.

Thank you.

Thank you for proving me wrong.
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#118samuraigaidenPosted 8/29/2014 2:57:47 PM
So nice to see the GameFAQs community coming together in a time of crisis and actually doing something pro-active.

KEEP IT UP!
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#119kblaze13Posted 8/29/2014 3:01:55 PM
Ya know there should be a lesson here...and it's not the first time it's happened either so it's not like this is a new lesson.

You don't pick a fight with the internet as a whole and expect to win.

Sure you can't make every community happy, just like you can't make every individual happy, but you do not go and piss them all off intentionally then claim to be the victim, you'll lose.
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#120CrissaegrimPosted 8/29/2014 3:15:26 PM
Was hoping to complete more of my backlog this past week but I've spent most of it reading up on this entertaining ****storm instead. Really don't know what these guys are thinking going against their readers like that.


http://www.littletinyfrogs.com/article/457277/3_things_that_have_made_gaming_social_media_more_toxic

Haven't seen this one posted here yet. A blog article from Brad Wardell CEO of Stardock.