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Saints Row dev admits to failures in portraying women, calls on industry change

#11merqabahPosted 9/1/2014 1:25:04 PM
calcycle posted...
Asking Saint's Row to respect people is like asking Duke Nukem to do it too.

When you have a giant penetrator weapon in the game sexual respect is probably one of the lesser things in the game. Women have those prostitutes, Men have the gimps, it's not really fair to say that women are being disrespected in that game because everyone is.

Some women in the games aren't even sexualized like the others, Kya for example is always in her armor. Kenzie also isn't sexualized much and even when she is she is comfortable with what she can do, something that should be respected in when talking about sexuality in a character.


i mean, that sarkeesian video rips on the prostitutes and violence in bioshock, did she mention the ignorant male brutes who constantly scream things at you?, the fact that infinite, 15 minutes into it has you chopping up a mans face? that the darkness 2, has levels with male chaqracters getting brutally killed, not just those 2 women? that in RDR none of the sidequests has a happy ending?, dead bodies are decorations all over the place in games, most of them in posing stances, worst offenders are bioshock and the arkham games, but the violence is spread evenly.

yet characters like fitzroy, bonnie, and almost ALL of the women in assasins creed series, get ignored?

you could tell what her conclusions would be even before she made them.
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#12SneakiestNegPosted 9/1/2014 1:43:36 PM
This is just a typical Murica problem imo.
Twelve year old buying GTA5? Show your ID please. Actual sex education in schools. And parents need to talk with children about porn and consent. These things would go a long way solving some of these issues.
#13TropicMoon10Posted 9/1/2014 1:50:09 PM
We're talking about a game that lets you use a d**** as a weapon

a plastic wang

as a tool for attacking people

Clearly we should be offended by a few animated strippers

Why is the internet so bitter man
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#14mccue166Posted 9/1/2014 1:57:19 PM
calcycle posted...
Asking Saint's Row to respect people is like asking Duke Nukem to do it too.


That's part of the reason Forever failed was because the things that were ok in the 90s aren't cool in the 2010s
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#15merqabahPosted 9/1/2014 2:00:00 PM
mccue166 posted...
calcycle posted...
Asking Saint's Row to respect people is like asking Duke Nukem to do it too.


That's part of the reason Forever failed was because the things that were ok in the 90s aren't cool in the 2010s


forever failed because it was a mess of a game, it was a frankenstein creation, outside of the sjw crowd, people were excited about that teaser with the japanese girls.
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#16calcyclePosted 9/1/2014 2:01:40 PM
mccue166 posted...
calcycle posted...
Asking Saint's Row to respect people is like asking Duke Nukem to do it too.


That's part of the reason Forever failed was because the things that were ok in the 90s aren't cool in the 2010s


I thought it had more to do with the mediocre gameplay. 2 weapon limit and regenerating health(with no other way to gain health except waiting) in a run and gun shooter? bad choices.
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#17GoldninjaPosted 9/1/2014 2:06:58 PM
Looks like I won't be playing any future iterations of their games. The Saint's Row games are pure parody. They are not designed to be PC. A woman in a bikini, holding a sub machine gun? OH Noez!! I guess that sniper lady in MGS5 won't go over well.

http://images.vg247.com/current//2013/09/Metal-Gear-Solid-5-Quiet.jpg

No one cares if a silly game like Saint's Row objectifies men or women (except idiotic extremists). It's a stupid game that's meant to be stupid.
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#18SpazH3dPosted 9/1/2014 2:10:50 PM
Goldninja posted...
No one cares if a silly game like Saint's Row objectifies men or women


This is a good point. The game makes a joke of both genders, and makes both look like sex objects. The SJW crap doesn't work on this series.
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#19blade6321Posted 9/1/2014 2:16:54 PM
mccue166 posted...
calcycle posted...
Asking Saint's Row to respect people is like asking Duke Nukem to do it too.


That's part of the reason Forever failed was because the things that were ok in the 90s aren't cool in the 2010s


The game just wasn't funny.

There are plenty of modern things which are more offensive and non-PC and which are funny. But that really wasn't much of a factor in the grand scheme of things (it was a bad game overall).
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#20AsellusPosted 9/1/2014 5:50:58 PM
Uh, call me crazy but looking at the actual tweet "This something we all should be better at. Yes the orignial saints row is listed here. Yes it should be", I don't think I'd extend it to the later games.