Would you buy the new MacBook Pro solely for the Retina Display?

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davidd
Posted 6/20/2012 4:30:18 AM
CrimsonStrider posted...
Idk, isn't anyone unhappy that they're progressively getting harder to repair? I also thought I read something about being unable to upgrade the RAM, and it's not possible to remove the battery and therefore the trackpad or keyboard, because one of those ribbons ran underneath the battery.

I've thoroughly enjoyed fixing my MBP because it's so much cheaper and much more practical... though I definitely would like to upgrade...


Most people don't repair or upgrade their own notebooks, and lots of those people want their notebooks to be as thin as possible so they don't really care. People that do can just buy something else in Apple's opinion.
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CrimsonStrider
Posted 6/20/2012 9:18:12 AM

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CrimsonStrider posted...
Idk, isn't anyone unhappy that they're progressively getting harder to repair? I also thought I read something about being unable to upgrade the RAM, and it's not possible to remove the battery and therefore the trackpad or keyboard, because one of those ribbons ran underneath the battery.

I've thoroughly enjoyed fixing my MBP because it's so much cheaper and much more practical... though I definitely would like to upgrade...


Most people don't repair or upgrade their own notebooks, and lots of those people want their notebooks to be as thin as possible so they don't really care. People that do can just buy something else in Apple's opinion.


It's not that I don't understand why they're doing it, I'm just asking if any other posters are unhappy about it, since in the past it seemed like most of the people on this board were familiar enough with ifixit and taking their macs apart.
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davidd
Posted 6/20/2012 9:19:40 AM
Slightly unhappy I guess (I've upgraded the RAM and put in an SSD in this MacBook Pro), but with the way computers are going, I don't think I'll miss it much.

So long as I can make productive use of the computer for 4-5 years or so, I'll be fine.
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CompilerCoyote
Posted 6/20/2012 10:09:31 PM
The soldered RAM bothers me, since that is something I routinely upgrade later. The rest, not so much.

Hard drives are easy to supplement later (and they're already using SSDs anyway, which would've been the upgrade I'd have made), batteries are not much of an issue these days, and anything beyond that is probably best sent in to a professional anyway, rather than having me try to do it myself.

That said, the jump from 8GB to 16GB is only $200, which is cheap for RAM by Apple standards, so it's one time I might not mind (so much) paying Apple for the upgrade. And even though I only feel like I need 4-8GB typically these days, I'd certainly max that out at 16GB so that it'd be better future-proofed.
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member1982
Posted 6/21/2012 11:59:53 PM
I guess its easier to design and make the laptop thinner if soldiered RAM & thinner SSD are used, But on the downside is you have to pay $200 for extra 8GB.
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Cro Magnon
Posted 6/22/2012 12:17:41 AM
It worries me that my next Mac might have to be an older one. And after that maybe not a Mac anymore. They're getting further away from the machine I want.
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davidd
Posted 6/22/2012 4:05:58 AM
member1982 posted...
But on the downside is you have to pay $200 for extra 8GB.


It's more than it'd cost to do yourself, but actually looks cheaper than what most other notebook vendors seem to charge (HP wants $350 to go from 6GB->16GB in the 15" Envy, Lenovo wants an insane $1060 to go from 4GB to 16GB in the ThinkPad X230)

Given the market a $2200 notebook targets, $200 is not much.
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SCAMaz0n
Posted 6/22/2012 8:41:06 AM
I hate to barge into the conversation like this, but I just need to ask.

Since I don't have an Apple store near me, which is the better way to compare the old display with the Retina?
Print ads or youtube videos?
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davidd
Posted 6/22/2012 10:25:12 AM
SCAMaz0n posted...
I hate to barge into the conversation like this, but I just need to ask.

Since I don't have an Apple store near me, which is the better way to compare the old display with the Retina?
Print ads or youtube videos?


Best Buy or another store like that, maybe?. Sort of hard to see how good a retina screen is with a non-retina screen.

Could also buy both and return them within the 14 days or whatever, though that's not that practical.
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CompilerCoyote
Posted 6/23/2012 5:42:05 PM
Imagination may be your best bet, honestly, since there's no way to see how good it is with a non-retina display.

For a mental exercise, here's a wallpaper sized appropriately for a new retina MacBook Pro (2880x1800):
http://skotgat.thecopypasteblog.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/wallpaper-1646368.jpg

Magnify it so it's full size, then trace out in front of you the size of a 15" screen. Now imagine that all of those pixels were in that 15" display space. In contrast, a 1080p screen is just 1920x1080, so the MacBook Pro's screen has 2.5x as many pixels as a full 1080p screen, yet it's far smaller than most 1080p screens you'll ever see, meaning the clarity is insane.
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