*ARCHER SPOILERS* - Which way to the GAR?

#1EsyriasPosted 4/12/2009 3:09:19 PM
I just finished playing through HF, so now I've finished all the routes, and I've been wondering- which of Shirou's various paths eventually creates Archer?

It's probably not either of the UBW endings, since he still has Rin and cuts out the line about never holding anything from the prayer. HF certainly screws him up enough, but also sees him abandon his ideals. I saw somewhere that it's Fate, and that seems plausible, but there's really nothing in the ending that directly implies it, unless I've just forgotten. I guess it could also be an entirely different destiny, one that would have taken place if he'd followed his ideal directly without taking any of the game's routes.

What's the consensus?
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#2LordSeymour77Posted 4/12/2009 3:11:08 PM
Mind of Steel bad end from Heaven's Feel
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#3that one guyPosted 4/12/2009 3:17:41 PM
Mind of Steel does not create Archer. None of those paths create Archer.

My reasoning for saying MoS doesn't make Archer is that if he had gone through MoS, he would have been able to make the connection of "Sakura died, Shadow disappeared, ergo Sakura had something to do with it." The closest is Fate, because he lost the sheathe, he never fought himself(try and wrap your head around that) and he never questioned his ideals until it was too late.
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#4AgroTheCollosusPosted 4/12/2009 3:50:55 PM
Continuing from what that one guy said Fate has the highest chance of producing Archer, but the chance is still low. However Archer was most likely from his own path.
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#5Squinting_guyPosted 4/12/2009 4:20:54 PM
I thought Archer still had the sheath?
#6that one guyPosted 4/12/2009 4:32:40 PM
No. That's why in his fight with Shirou he gets this surprised face and goes "HER SHEATH!" before Shirou hits him.
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#7DragonRaizenPosted 4/12/2009 5:43:11 PM
I say Mind of Steel is the closest, he gives everything up to go after his ideal. But on the routes, Fate no doubt.

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#8that one guyPosted 4/12/2009 5:59:39 PM
But again, Mind of Steel makes no sense in context. It's obviously a unique life he lived.
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#9RadixPosted 4/12/2009 7:11:17 PM
From: that one guy | #006
No. That's why in his fight with Shirou he gets this surprised face and goes "HER SHEATH!" before Shirou hits him.

Actually he was surprised Shirou still had the Sheath's protection even though Shirou didn't have a contract with Saber

Which could mean either he doesn't have the sheath anymore, or he does have it and doesn't realize it
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#10that one guyPosted 4/12/2009 7:58:19 PM
Hmm...it's been a little while, so I'll take your word on that.
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