Pokemon Emerald Version
"Getting shinies through emerald's non-random random number generator" 2!!!
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Just continuing the epic topic by wonderpuddle that just hit 500 posts. --- Pearl - 1591 0203 0126 | |
So I can’t believe we already hit 500 posts. Here is the quick recap on the method to obtain shinies in emerald: For those that haven't seen the original post . . . ( http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=921905&topic=48296893 ) . . .the random number generator ("RNG") in emerald is not actually random. It starts with exactly the same frame sequence (a frame is 1/60 of a second) every time you soft reset your game (i.e., press and release start/select/A/B). What this means is that once you figure out at what frames your shiny pokemon appear, you can repeatedly soft reset at that exact moment and catch TONS of shinies. So if you have emerald and want to catch shinies, hopefully this will help you. First, I would recommend reading through the following post, as it has a ton of great information and good links: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50696 But here is a brief summary that should hopefully help you get started. It is a little dense, but hopefully it will help: 1) Figure out your emerald secret ID (I got mine by trading a pal-parked emerald pokemon to someone with pokesav and he generously gave me my secret ID). 2) Go to the following site: http://pokem.client.jp/emloop.htm It can tell you at exactly what moment your shiny pokemon will appear (each secret ID has different shiny moments). But it is written in Japanese. Hopefully this will help you figure out how to use the site to locate your shinies if you can't read Japanese: a) Click on the second shaded button from the top on the right hand side with the Japanese symbols. That should take you to a new page that has six white boxes towards the left hand column. b) In the top of those six white boxes (the one with the letter "F" after it), enter 40000 (I think that is the number of frames to search) c) Leave the next two boxes blank (the one with "#" at the end of it and the one after that one). d) In the fourth box (which has "ID" in front of it), enter your ID. e) In the fifth box (which has a Japanese character and "ID"), enter your special ID. f) Make sure the fourth little square from the top towards the right hand side (the one with the star at the end of it) is checked. g) Click the circle marked "method 1" if you are trying to catch a legendary/fossil/starter/etc. pokemon. Click the circle marked "method 2" if you are instead trying to catch a wild pokemon (i.e., with sweet scent). h) See that big white box on the middle of the page? Click the middle shaded button with Japanese characters right above that box. Wait a couple moments and your shiny frames (along with natures and IV's) will be listed in the big box. So, for example, if you enter 37771 as the ID and 12532 as the secret ID with the method 1 box checked, you should see something like the following in the big box: 8397F,(139.94,13-28-19-9-9-3 24206F,(403.43),10-25-2-8-20-30 What that means is that frames 8397 and 24206 will be shiny for method one pokemon and will have the IV's listed above. Divide the frames by 60 to get the exact time and you can see that method 1 shinies will appear at 139.94 seconds (2 minutes and 19.94 seconds) and at 403.43 seconds (6 minutes and 43.43 seconds) after releasing start/select/A/B on that particular emerald cartridge. [CONTINUED BELOW -- PLEASE DO NOT POST YET] --- Diamond FC 4468 6541 8969 | |
3) Next, you need to download the following spreadsheet: http://www.philderbeast.com/files/EmeraldRNG.zip If that site is down, you can get the untranslated spreadsheet here: http://www5.atwiki.jp/metamon?cmd=upload&act=open&pageid=30&file=uporg1843386.zip These files essentially list all of the first 40,000 frames in the game (every emerald game has the exact same order of nature and IV spreads, but the shinies will differ depending on your ID and secret ID). This file is crucial in figuring out how close you are to landing your shiny. 4) Go to the location where you will encounter your desired pokemon with at least one empty pokemon slot (so you can check nature/IVs). I.e., Let's assume you want to encounter Groudon. Enter his cave and save at the spot just below where you encounter him (so you will have to press UP once to encounter him). Then soft reset (start/select/A/B) and simultaneously start your stopwatch as you release the buttons. Load the game and watch the stopwatch. When it hits your desired moment (which you may have to adjust -- look through the smogon post for adjustment times for particular pokemon; groudon was something like 4.32 seconds early), hit UP (or A or whatever causes you to encounter your pokemon). 5) If it is shiny, great. You succeeded. If not, masterball it and check his stats with a pokemon IV calculator: http://www.psypokes.com/dex/iv.php Once you get the approximate IVs, go to the spreadsheet from step #3 above and figure out how much you missed by by searching for pokemon with that nature (starting a couple hundred frames before your target frame). For example, my target shiny frame was 8397. My first attempt at groudon was mild 22,14,20,30,18,27 -- I perused the spreadsheet for mild frames starting at around 8200 and eventually located my catch at frame 8391 -- just missed by 6 frames. 6) Repeat the process until you land your shiny. That's how it works for method 1 pokemon. Method 2 pokemon are pretty much the same thing, with a couple subtle differences -- the natures listed in the chart from step#3 are one line off. In other words, for method 2 pokemon, you need to shift the natures down one line. So, for example, a method 2 pokemon at frame 8398 is actually sassy 3,9,9,31,21,12 (not lonely). You can still use the chart the same way explained at step 5 above, but you need to shift your focus to one line below the nature to see the correct stats. Method 2 pokemon are also probably easier to catch, as you can use a synchronizer as the lead of your party that has the desired nature (i.e., sassy in my example) and then when you use sweet scent, if your synch works, you may not have to hit the exact frame, but instead can land your target shiny if you are close enough. Other tips – if you are resetting for a good shiny frame, try to find one that has a nice gap between frames with the same nature as your desired shiny frame. In other words, if you shiny frame is naïve, look on the spreadsheet and make sure the nearest naïve frame before your frame is at least 20+ frames earlier. Otherwise you might have difficulty sweet scenting for shiny pokemon. I think that's it. Any other tips I'm forgetting? Feel free to add them in. --- Diamond FC 4468 6541 8969 | |
And KokoSoad, I am around for maybe another 10 minutes, so if you happen to be here now, let me know and I'll get you that totodile. --- Diamond FC 4468 6541 8969 | |
Can i get one? I got another copy of Emerald so hopefully i can get a better shiny frame rate. My ID ends in the same number which was 2 on my original E(my new one is 52672 iirc). --- Nsider2 has GS collection cards. Pearl: 1804 8643 1195, JC6 Diamond: 4468 0437 0563, Rex. | |
Wait, so if i am going for legends i don't shift natures down in the excel sheet? I need to know what the neutral nature is for 6811 and 5877. Bulbapedia isn't working and i'm about to catch some Z's. --- Nsider2 has GS collection cards. Pearl: 1804 8643 1195, JC6 Diamond: 4468 0437 0563, Rex. | |
wonderpuddle, I've had the flu the past few days so my time on the computer is pretty low. Hopefully I'll be on at the same time as you sometime soon. --- Pearl - 1591 0203 0126 | |
You guys around now? If so, post. I'll be on for a few minutes. And orange, assuming you are looking for method 1 shinies (aka legends), 5877 is adamant and 6811 is calm. You do not shift the frames for method 1 shinies. --- Diamond FC 4468 6541 8969 | |
im on now. too late im guessing. --- Pearl - 1591 0203 0126 | |
nah still here. Pearl code? You want just totodile or chickorita too? --- Diamond FC 4468 6541 8969 |
