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#81shawnmckPosted 1/23/2013 11:50:10 AM(edited)
Here you go....

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/24/news/la-trb-mexico-world-20120823

This article shows how the murder rate in Mexico (a Country that has a complete ban on guns) is actually higher than the US.
Mexico's murder rate is 18 (eighteen) per 100,000.
By comparison, the US murder rate is 5 (five) per 100,000.
That is more than 3-times the murder rate of the US....and the US has gun-ownership rights, where Mexico has a complete ban on guns.

And again, here is proof that the crime rate in Australia is UP after the gun ban...

http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

Even India has a much higher murder rate than the US, and they have very strict gun laws and bans on most guns.

Guns are NOT the problem.

You want to know what is...?
Society.
The illegitimacy rate in the US is skyrocketing. The breakdown of the family unit is way up, and the notion of a family where there is a Mother & a Father is fractured.
It should be no surprise that as family stability is on the decline, the murder rate is up.
Don't you think that maybe that is the problem ?

Of course you don't...that isn't in line with the political agenda....is it ?
#82reverence27Posted 1/23/2013 11:58:16 AM
shawnmck posted...
Here you go....

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/24/news/la-trb-mexico-world-20120823

This article shows how the murder rate in Mexico (a Country that has a complete ban on guns) is actually higher than the US.
Mexico's murder rate is 18 per 100,000.
By comparison, the US murder rate is 5 per 100,000.
That is more than 3-times the murder rate of the US....and the US has gun-ownership rights, where Mexico has a complete ban on guns.

And again, here is proof that the crime rate in Australia is UP after the gun ban...

http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

Even India has a much higher murder rate than the US, and they have very strict gun laws and bans on most guns.

Guns are NOT the problem.

You want to know what is...?
Society.
The illegitimacy rate in the US is skyrocketing. The breakdown of the family unit is way up, and the notion of a family where there is a Mother & a Father is fractured.
It should be no surprise that as family stability is on the decline, the murder rate is up.
Don't you think that maybe that is the problem ?


1. How many times did I say education should be the most important thing to look into when trying to find solutions to this problem.....

and

Again you want to compare us to the countries of Mexico and India......
I think you are confused on our countries economy and stability.
Both countries are Developing nations, and not yet fully developed.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/world/mexico-making-strides-but-not-yet-a-developed-nation-251589.html

You have no pride for the fight and struggle we have endured to become a successful, free, wealthy, secure, developed nation.

Of course I'm trying to explain this to someone who thinks Obama is a tyrant, communist, muslim, son of hitler, who wants to become an emperor and declare Prima Nocta across the nation.
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#83reverence27Posted 1/23/2013 12:11:58 PM(edited)
shawnmck posted...
Here you go....

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/24/news/la-trb-mexico-world-20120823

This article shows how the murder rate in Mexico (a Country that has a complete ban on guns) is actually higher than the US.
Mexico's murder rate is 18 (eighteen) per 100,000.
By comparison, the US murder rate is 5 (five) per 100,000.
That is more than 3-times the murder rate of the US....and the US has gun-ownership rights, where Mexico has a complete ban on guns.

And again, here is proof that the crime rate in Australia is UP after the gun ban...

http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

Even India has a much higher murder rate than the US, and they have very strict gun laws and bans on most guns.

Guns are NOT the problem.

You want to know what is...?
Society.
The illegitimacy rate in the US is skyrocketing. The breakdown of the family unit is way up, and the notion of a family where there is a Mother & a Father is fractured.
It should be no surprise that as family stability is on the decline, the murder rate is up.
Don't you think that maybe that is the problem ?

Of course you don't...that isn't in line with the political agenda....is it ?


Dude,.... I don't know if you are being serious, or sarcastic now....
Here is a little tip.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

Read the full article before you try and use it in your argument.

This entire article is about how the claim that crime and gun violence is up, may be very inaccurate.
I quote from the article you posted-
"The main point to be learned here is that determining the effect of changes in Australia's gun ownership laws and the government's firearm buyback program on crime rate requires a complex long-term analysis and can't be discerned from the small, mixed grab bag of short term statistics offered here."

At least your ignorance has proven you right once, Illiteracy is a growing problem here.
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#84shawnmckPosted 1/23/2013 12:39:32 PM(edited)
There you go again, only believing what you want.

But here is another, which was done in 2013....and is very specific and to the point...

http://blurbrain.com/australian-crime-rate-up-after-their-guns-are-confiscated-and-melted/

^ Watch the video...its from a NEWS agency.
And no, it wasn't FOX. (you broken record)

And if you don't want to watch a video and would rather read it, here is another (from August 2012)....

http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/564441/Crime-climbs-in-Australia-after-widespread-gun-ban.html
#85shawnmckPosted 1/23/2013 12:50:18 PM(edited)
And please...don't even get me started on Education.
Your idea of Education is in the form of Public Education, which has been corrupted by politics and has been proven to be grossly inadequate, as political correctness is valued more than actual education.

Again you are showing your colors for pushing an agenda.
You want to ban guns...check !
And give more power to the Public Education system which is a complete joke....check !
The same Public education system that hands out condoms and pushes Socialism & Political Correctness.
Yeah, that's a recipe for disaster.

Because the Public Education system has done such a bang-up job up till now, right ?

BTW
The Public Teachers Unions all support and always give multiple Millions of dollars to the Democrat Party.
Yeah, they aren't totally biased.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/03/nation/la-na-education-dems-20120904
#86Robert3681Posted 1/23/2013 12:50:22 PM
I don't come on the 360 board often, but I was board and came over here to find this topic. My question is, WHO THE F*** CARES? You are on a video game site, why make this topic? Why would you want to discuss something so stupid. A video gamer shouldn't care about too much violence and neither should anyone else.
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#87WiiareVenomPosted 1/23/2013 1:10:39 PM
Lodiss posted...
The real question, as I see it, is what makes violence so cool?

Could it have anything to do with the wars? The US fights a major war at least once every ten years, with smaller deployments to conflict zones at least once every five years. We wouldn't be able to get soldiers for this endless war machine if we didn't glorify and romanticize war and violence in general.

If the 18-year-olds didn't think violence was cool, the American empire would crumble.


Yes, because Rome, England, The various Viking groups, Arabs, etc didn't glorify war this long before America came around....
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#88reverence27Posted 1/23/2013 1:30:54 PM
shawnmck posted...
And please...don't even get me started on Education.
Your idea of Education is in the form of Public Education, which has been corrupted by politics and has been proven to be grossly inadequate, as political correctness is valued more than actual education.

Again you are showing your colors for pushing an agenda.
You want to ban guns...check !
And give more power to the Public Education system which is a complete joke....check !
The same Public education system that hands out condoms and pushes Socialism & Political Correctness.
Yeah, that's a recipe for disaster.

Because the Public Education system has done such a bang-up job up till now, right ?

BTW
The Public Teachers Unions all support and always give multiple Millions of dollars to the Democrat Party.
Yeah, they aren't totally biased.

There you go with your conspiracy theories again. Everyone is out to get you, Education is corrupt, everyone wants to ban guns.
1. I do not think banning guns is the absolute solution, i have never said that.
2. Yes education is very important, anyone who disagrees is ignorant, stupid and obviously uneducated.
3. Condoms.really? That is what is corrupt with our nation. Promoting safe sex? Accessibility to condoms and birth control is the cheapest and most productive way to reduce abortions and unwanted pregnancies that lead to children growing up in unwanted homes with behaviorial issues and turning to drugs, crime and violence.
http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/04/14224132-free-birth-control-cuts-abortion-rate-dramatically-study-finds?lite

Obama is a secret muslim born outside the US - Check
Obama wants to take away our guns - Check
Public schools indoctrinate our children (with Facts and information,) to form an atiest nation for their war on religion - check
Government wants to create Death Squads to assassinate Gun Advocates - Check
Sandy Hook was a hoax created to ban guns - Check
Global Climate Change is just a big science grant ponzi scheme and was created by the Democratic party to fund green energy - Check
Obamacare takes away your right to choose or keep your insurance and consist of death panels that will kill off anyone with preexisting or expensive conditions - check
Women's vaginas are capable of repelling rape sperm - check
Obama will allow the UN to directly tax americans in order to redistribute our wealth to the rest of the world - check
Earth is only 9000 years old, and satan put dinosaurs in the ground to convert people to sinners and form the Democratic party - check
Civil war had nothing to do with slavery - check

If you would bother to learn to read instead of learning from youtube videos and memes posted on facebook, so many possibilities would open up for you.

BTW
The NRA all support and always give multiple Millions of dollars to the Republican Party.
Yeah, they aren't totally biased.

Of course the teachers unions gave majority to Democrats, the Republicans took a platform of eliminating Unions and Workers Rights. Whats not to be biased about when your job is on the line because one side supports 1% of the population over the other 99% because their wallets are fuller.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/30/g-o-p-platform-seeks-to-weaken-powers-of-unions/

Do you really want to live in a Nation where when you finally hit 16 and look for work, the only jobs available are well below minimum wage and no overtime pay because labor laws were no longer able to be fought for by unions.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/16/994973/-House-Republicans-set-the-stage-to-undermine-minimum-wage-and-overtime-protections#
Again, you show how young and ignorant you really are.
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#89shawnmckPosted 1/23/2013 2:12:04 PM(edited)
reverence27 posted...


BTW
The NRA all support and always give multiple Millions of dollars to the Republican Party.
Yeah, they aren't totally biased.


^ The NRA isn't responsible for teaching children from grades Kinder to 12.
Nor do they propose laws or legislation.

They are no different than the NAACP (gives Millions to Democrats)
And the AARP (gives Millions to Democrats)

And why do you think the NRA gives Millions to the Republican party...?
Don't you think its because the Republican Party support the 2nd Amendment, whereas the Democrat Party seeks to destroy it....?
You are clear evidence that the Democrat Party does NOT give a whit about the second Amendment, and seeks to completely eradicate it.
After all, its what you are arguing for...and you spout the exact same rhetoric that is regurgitated hundreds of times...you are a broken record.

NRA is NOT even close to being anywhere similar to the Teachers Unions and the Public Schools.

You really are desperate and grasping for straws.

Everything else you posted is a lot of bogus non-sense, and isn't worth responding to.

Anyone who is remotely interested needs only to do some basic research and listen to both sides...and make up their own minds.
#90shawnmckPosted 1/23/2013 2:51:06 PM(edited)
And then there is this News....

Obama gives Egypt 20 (twenty) F-16 fighter jets and 200 (two-hundred) Abrams war tanks....in addition to Billions of tax-payers dollars....

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01/22/gift-us-f-16-fighter-jets-en-route-to-egypt-amid-criticism/

Despite the Fact that the Egyptian leader has vowed to attack & destroy Israel.
And you wonder why some think that Obama is secretly Muslim.

Meanwhile, Obama tries to disarm US citizens.

And if you don't like that the source is FOX news (even though they are just as credible as any other news agency like ABC, CBS, CNN, etc)...

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Egypt-jets-turmoil-Brotherhood/2012/12/11/id/467264

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/121112-636671-obama-foolishly-arms-an-unstable-egypt.htm

http://www.examiner.com/article/barack-obama-set-to-give-egypt-10-fighter-jets-200-tanks

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-arms-our-enemiessends-20-f-16-fighter-jets-to-egypt/

So to boil it all down....
Obama wants to take guns away from US citizens....but is willing to give 20 fighter jets and 200 Abrams tanks to Egypt....Who's leader (Morsi) has publicly threatened to destroy the Nation of Israel many times now.
And if you didn't know, Egypt is now under full control by the Muslim Brotherhood, who supports terrorism.

http://bbcwatch.org/2013/01/16/bbc-tones-down-morsis-support-for-terrorism-against-all-israelis/

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/president-morsi-called-for-the-destruction-of-israel-and-terrorist-attacks-on-jews-around-the-world/

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/30/world/middleeast/morsi-promises-to-work-for-release-of-omar-abdel-rahman.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/m/muslim_brotherhood_egypt/index.html