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TalesOfGod
Posted 2/8/2013 10:08:43 AM
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dudultimateness posted...
I just got done voting in the poll and normally I vote with the majority but when I voted that I wouldn't care at all I was shocked to see there were only 3% of you out there like me. I can't quite catch onto why so many people out there are so obsessed with used games. Is the $10 Gamestop gives you off the next used C.O.D really that big of a deal?


So I'm wondering, do THAT many of you really buy that many used games?

And

If by blocking used games Microsoft can make the price of all new games at most $40 by going completely digital would you still have the same opinion?



You have no f***ing idea what you're talking about, do you.
Blocking used games is a violation of customer rights, will close down and murder a ton of shops in the future, will make the price of videos games even higher than before, will be harder to find games once their rage goes out, etc.

There are so many wrong things with blocking out used games. Anyone who disagrees clearly is a child or doesn't understand the severity of the situation. Either way, if a system does not allow me to use used games then I won't take that system, not even if it is free. *Dead serious*

If the 720 or PS4 does do this, I will lose all trust with that company and will not buy any of their new products especially the new systems. Instead, I'll gravitate to the systems that do allow for used games which actually respect their fanbase and don't view them as walking money bills. -_-
TalesOfGod
Posted 2/8/2013 10:10:05 AM
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dudultimateness posted...
"FC3 new online = £27.99... Used in store = £24.99

Plus all the complaining people do about lack of booklets, scratches etc... Makes me wonder why anyone cares."

That's exactly my point. You hardly ever save more than $10 dollars (at least that's normally the case for me). Meanwhile, Gamestop will buy your completely new game for $10 and sell it back for $55 and we're not supposed to be disgusted by their profits?


I have no idea where you shop but I always save at least 50% of the game price if not more.
JTC87
Posted 2/8/2013 10:11:33 AM
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otisanime posted...
JTC87 posted...
Alright, I didn't read every post because most of it is the same over and over again. I have some points to address. People that collect games for old systems, why? You don't collect boxes of checkers do you? The console had its time, and now its time is over. Move along. For those that say they won't be able to find a game later on down the road, that is where digital downloads comes into play, they cut put the entire library online for you to download. Renting? That could all be digital as well. Trading games with your friends? People still do that? I haven't in 15 years. Also, stop using the analogy about not being able to buy or sell used cars, that doesn't make sense as the car would be the console in this case and it has nothing to do with the games. For the people that say that the developers already got their money for the used games, true they did, but instead of getting more money by you buying new games, you instead buy used and the developers don't get any more. Last but not least, people saying they can't afford to buy new, gaming is a hobby, not a right. If you can't afford it then find something cheaper to do.

I am sure I missed a few arguments but it just seems that people are scared of change, and this fear is holding us back.


A huge problem with stuff, though, is if someone loses the rights for something, and someone doesn't pick it up, or someone with no intents on using it picks it up, that game, if digital only, can seriously just flat out vanish forever, with no real way to copy it and get it out there, due to console-style DRM and whatnot. That's already happened with some digital versions of things, actually.

Really, that's my only gripe with an all digital future, well, that, and I don't trust Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony to not inflate prices for extra long periods of times. They're not Valve.


I will agree with this. This is a negative aspect. I would assume you could keep the game as long as it is on your console. I also think this won't happen to the best games. It is a valid point though.
TakayaNoriko
Posted 2/8/2013 10:13:09 AM
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JTC87 posted...
TakayaNoriko posted...
JTC87 posted...
People that collect games for old systems, why? You don't collect boxes of checkers do you? The console had its time, and now its time is over. Move along.


And another thing, what's the deal with people watching movies that are older than a few years? Those are old movies, stop watching them. Old movie watching time is over.


Your analogy doesn't make sense, how often do you buy movies on VHS and watch them? You don't you buy Blu-ray.


What about the movies that don't get Blu-ray releases?
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lokithefool
Posted 2/8/2013 10:13:25 AM
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The idea behind these rumors is hysterical. The amount of problems it would cause from getting rid of used games is astronomical. It would massively damage an entire retail industry, and rental one. It would collapse nearly half of the video game market. It would lead to law suits of epic proportions. A new wave of piracy would come forward. Wild legislation would be implemented.

You are also talking about an industry that is afraid of the slightest change, and you honestly think they would volunteer to destroy themselves with radical transformation for virtually zero gains? Not to mention the technical nightmares, and how poorly always online DRM products have done in sales on the PC. Remember the Diablo 3, and assassins creed 2 fiasco?
masterarbiter44
Posted 2/8/2013 10:14:18 AM
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memphis12 posted...
I can't remember the last time I bought a used game. I would rather completely support the developer than partially through used games.

People will get over it. Apple seem to be doing just fine & I don't see to many people complaining who purchase games through Steam.

PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO FIND THINGS TO MOAN ABOUT.


So you like it when you don't have control over the things you buy? Fine, but I don't.
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masterarbiter44
Posted 2/8/2013 10:15:42 AM
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dudultimateness posted...
I just got done voting in the poll and normally I vote with the majority but when I voted that I wouldn't care at all I was shocked to see there were only 3% of you out there like me. I can't quite catch onto why so many people out there are so obsessed with used games. Is the $10 Gamestop gives you off the next used C.O.D really that big of a deal?


So I'm wondering, do THAT many of you really buy that many used games?

And

If by blocking used games Microsoft can make the price of all new games at most $40 by going completely digital would you still have the same opinion?


So you are saying you are against having control over the things you buy?
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tr1bes
Posted 2/8/2013 10:16:45 AM
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JtC87 write.

[Alright, I didn't read every post because most of it is the same over and over again. I have some points to address. People that collect games for old systems, why? You don't collect boxes of checkers do you? The console had its time, and now its time is over. Move along. For those that say they won't be able to find a game later on down the road, that is where digital downloads comes into play, they cut put the entire library online for you to download. Renting? That could all be digital as well. Trading games with your friends? People still do that? I haven't in 15 years. Also, stop using the analogy about not being able to buy or sell used cars, that doesn't make sense as the car would be the console in this case and it has nothing to do with the games. For the people that say that the developers already got their money for the used games, true they did, but instead of getting more money by you buying new games, you instead buy used and the developers don't get any more. Last but not least, people saying they can't afford to buy new, gaming is a hobby, not a right. If you can't afford it then find something cheaper to do.

I am sure I missed a few arguments but it just seems that people are scared of change, and this fear is holding us back.]

I do collect old games that I can hold in my hand. I hope you can hold yours digitally. If that machine is down and fail to operate, best of luck getting that game. My ps3 broke down, do you wish for me to buy a whole new system? some people wants the real thing like cash. Ask the waiter in the restaurant if he/she likes cash or credit as tips b/c they have to pay tax to the government for that tip. My wife is a hair stylist, she prefer that cash b/c the governement can't get a grip on that money. The used car is probably refer to games in your case. I have never driven a new car b/c i can't afford the new one. Is that so bad? If you want me to buy a new car, please pay for me then. Some people collect and rebuild old antique car. Do you suggest them to get it over with and buy brand new car. It's up to them. Companies like to squeeze our money no matter what b/c they want a profit from it. Look at how M$ squeeze your money for using the internet service for playing on the internet which you already pay for your internet at home.
synthetiksin
Posted 2/8/2013 10:24:31 AM
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I don't buy used games often and I'm pretty sure tons of others don't but blocking used games is a completely different thing altogether. It infringes on people's rights and that's never a good thing.
masterarbiter44
Posted 2/8/2013 10:25:36 AM
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JTC87 posted...
Alright, I didn't read every post because most of it is the same over and over again. I have some points to address. People that collect games for old systems, why? You don't collect boxes of checkers do you? The console had its time, and now its time is over. Move along. For those that say they won't be able to find a game later on down the road, that is where digital downloads comes into play, they cut put the entire library online for you to download. Renting? That could all be digital as well. Trading games with your friends? People still do that? I haven't in 15 years. Also, stop using the analogy about not being able to buy or sell used cars, that doesn't make sense as the car would be the console in this case and it has nothing to do with the games. For the people that say that the developers already got their money for the used games, true they did, but instead of getting more money by you buying new games, you instead buy used and the developers don't get any more. Last but not least, people saying they can't afford to buy new, gaming is a hobby, not a right. If you can't afford it then find something cheaper to do.

I am sure I missed a few arguments but it just seems that people are scared of change, and this fear is holding us back.


Why do I collect old video games systems and games? Its my hobby. I love to display the games I purchase and show of my collection. A system that blocks used games or only has download only would ruin that. Why would I go back and play it? Are you saying because the GameCube is discontinued, I should never play any of my favorite games ever again? I let my friends borrow a bunch of my games, so be quiet. Also developers are not paid by used games, correct. However, look at something 10 years old. The only way to play it is used. Why do you believe you can decide what the future is for us collectors? Removal of used games would destroy my favorite hobby, so would download only.
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