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wow MS point expire

#31SheepinatorPosted 2/13/2014 5:21:00 PM
Sipher360 posted...
Most people aren't victims of violent crime. And yet, it's still considered a bad thing.

^^^Hahahaha...I like that response.

But, seriously, I wonder why would they make the cards expire? So as to not run out of code combinations or something? Just curious.

Greed. It's just one more example of MS' greed. As I said earlier, they've taken in the money and could expect to pay back out up to 70% to publishers when gamers use the money on Live. If it expires, they profit huge. And if gamers buy things they didn't really want, they profit too, since those gamers will have to add new money to buy the things they do want later.
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#32infinitexxPosted 2/13/2014 5:26:06 PM
langystar posted...
kingvortex posted...
Points get converted to the equivalent monetary value when you redeem a points card now.
Existing points balances also got converted at some point.
I imagine that is what happened, rather than MS gifting you $50.
What is the value of 3500 points?


This, they didn't expire tc. MS changed from points to actual value.


Points from converted credit do expire, I forget how long, but something was stated around the conversion.
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#33kingvortexPosted 2/13/2014 5:33:55 PM(edited)
I just checked my email and my points got converted in October last year. The mail states I have until June 2015 to use the balance. So, they gave me around 20 months to use the balance up. Luckily, it didn't take me long to spend £0.34!
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#34GorillaReformedPosted 2/13/2014 8:37:19 PM
It's great to receive a letter in the mail.
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#35Dragon NexusPosted 2/14/2014 10:38:53 AM
Sheepinator posted...
Sipher360 posted...
Most people aren't victims of violent crime. And yet, it's still considered a bad thing.

^^^Hahahaha...I like that response.

But, seriously, I wonder why would they make the cards expire? So as to not run out of code combinations or something? Just curious.

Greed. It's just one more example of MS' greed. As I said earlier, they've taken in the money and could expect to pay back out up to 70% to publishers when gamers use the money on Live. If it expires, they profit huge. And if gamers buy things they didn't really want, they profit too, since those gamers will have to add new money to buy the things they do want later.


Again...publisher/MS greed on this instance, but on-disc DLC is absolutely fine.
Okay...

And again, this is not somethine unique to Microsoft.
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#36SheepinatorPosted 2/14/2014 10:53:10 AM
Dragon Nexus posted...
Sheepinator posted...
Greed. It's just one more example of MS' greed. As I said earlier, they've taken in the money and could expect to pay back out up to 70% to publishers when gamers use the money on Live. If it expires, they profit huge. And if gamers buy things they didn't really want, they profit too, since those gamers will have to add new money to buy the things they do want later.

Again...publisher/MS greed on this instance, but on-disc DLC is absolutely fine.
Okay...

And again, this is not somethine unique to Microsoft.

Err, as if on-disc DLC is even a remotely similar thing.

I recall in the past being told this happens all the time with gift cards, yet when asked for examples none are ever given.
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#37Dragon NexusPosted 2/14/2014 12:36:28 PM
Sheepinator posted...
Dragon Nexus posted...
Sheepinator posted...
Greed. It's just one more example of MS' greed. As I said earlier, they've taken in the money and could expect to pay back out up to 70% to publishers when gamers use the money on Live. If it expires, they profit huge. And if gamers buy things they didn't really want, they profit too, since those gamers will have to add new money to buy the things they do want later.

Again...publisher/MS greed on this instance, but on-disc DLC is absolutely fine.
Okay...

And again, this is not somethine unique to Microsoft.

Err, as if on-disc DLC is even a remotely similar thing.

I recall in the past being told this happens all the time with gift cards, yet when asked for examples none are ever given.


Why give examples when the majority of gift cards have an expiration?

Locking content behind a paywall is, to me, more nafarious than deleting your money after failing to use it for 2-3 years.
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#38SheepinatorPosted 2/14/2014 12:57:14 PM
Dragon Nexus posted...
Why give examples when the majority of gift cards have an expiration?

I asked for examples of all the retailers who have sold gift cards with no expiration then later on retroactively changed the deal to have them expire soon. As expected, the only response was a weak attempt to obfuscate and change the subject.

Locking content behind a paywall is, to me, more nafarious than deleting your money after failing to use it for 2-3 years.

Offering something for money is worse than taking money and giving nothing in return?!! You aren't thinking that through.
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#39dtmrPosted 2/14/2014 1:02:39 PM
When did Microsoft Points not expire? I recall they were always ticking time bombs.
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#40Dragon NexusPosted 2/14/2014 2:11:07 PM
Sheepinator posted...
I asked for examples of all the retailers who have sold gift cards with no expiration then later on retroactively changed the deal to have them expire soon. As expected, the only response was a weak attempt to obfuscate and change the subject.


Er, no you didn't.

Sheepinator posted...
I recall in the past being told this happens all the time with gift cards, yet when asked for examples none are ever given.

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