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A Gay Gamer Convention is NOT Necessary (Gaymercon 2013)

#271Sevi_neyPosted 8/7/2012 12:21:27 AM
RPGfreek posted...
dr_zomberg posted...
i for one im glad theyres gay bars and stuff, that way i dont have to be on high alert over some guy touching me whenever i do go to clubs.

and even then, gay MCD and ihop examples were completely stupid


Lol... gays usually don't bother with straight men. We might be attracted to them physically sometimes but we aren't drawn to them at all generally and gay men tend to take care of their looks better, be in better shape, and have more to talk about. That's why straight women are always pissed that "the good ones are always gay".


And that's why you're going to the Gaymercon? For all of the well groomed, physically fit men? So this whole thing IS just one big ulterior motive after all >:o
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#272CronoDynePosted 8/7/2012 12:24:55 AM(edited)
1. And if they were, would you be against those too?

Straight gaming convention, White gaming convention, Black gaming convention, Latino gaming convention, Gay gaming convention.. what do they all have in common?


2. Do you think that all sides were represented fairly before this gay gamer convention? Or does this tip the scale and now gays are represented more than straights in video games?

What does homosexuality in video games have to do with a gay gaming convention? It's not a convention for video games that promote homosexuality; it's a convention that dedicates itself specifically to gay gamers in general. Two completely different concepts.

America just doesn't make sense. Everyone goes on and on about how bad being prejudice and racist is, and then they just divide themselves even further. If everyone was really "equal" in the general sense of the public, then why the hell do people still refer to themselves by their skin tones or sexual preferences?!

America? This is true across the globe, especially in European countries.
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#273Pinoy441Posted 8/7/2012 12:24:13 AM
Read this entire topic only thing i got out of it is gay's are just either really attention hungry


I wouldn't mind this gay pride thing if it wasn't being SHOVED INTO OUR FACES LIKE ZOMG LOOK AT MY SEXUALITY (I live near San Francisco, I already get enough of that as it is)
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#274Phan_Boi_ChauPosted 8/7/2012 12:24:34 AM
CronoDyne posted...


And you seem to miss the point that it's a convention specifically catered to one specific group of people. Its entire point of existing is to promote one group. Of course anyone can come to it, but that doesn't change the fact it's an entire convention dedicated to gays, for gays, by gays.



I don't think anybody's missing this point, I think most people don't understand why anybody has a problem with it. Isn't this the entire point of a convention?
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#275CronoDynePosted 8/7/2012 12:26:24 AM
Isn't this the entire point of a convention?

No. If you're going to cherry pick one part of my post, perhaps you should read the whole thing? Gaymercon promotes the segregation of individuals, proposing that gamers should isolate themselves into sub categories instead of coming together as one cohesive group of people with varying beliefs and lifestyles who share a pastime in common. THAT'S the problem with it.
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#276Sevi_neyPosted 8/7/2012 12:27:02 AM
There will be discussions about Mass Effect 3.

Many of them. That is all.
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#277RPGfreekPosted 8/7/2012 12:27:17 AM
CronoDyne posted...
Then how would a straight convention and regular convention differ?

Well maybe that Gaymercon promotes the segregation of individuals, proposing that gamers should isolate themselves into sub categories instead of coming together as one cohesive group of people with varying beliefs and lifestyles who share a pastime in common?

How could you change a regular gaming convention to be more slanted towards straight people?

Why would you? It's an all inclusive convention for all gamers.

If you can't really, then it seems to be that a straight convention and a regular convention are functionally the same since if you were forced to design a convention for straight gamers you'd get your typical gaming convention that you see today.


Now this is just an over exaggerated statement. How are regular conventions "straight" conventions? How do you come up with the conclusion that these are conventions catering straight people? Because.. they aren't. What, is it the fact there are more straight people than gay people? Yes, naturally using the simple logic of ratios, if there's generally more straight people in the world, there will generally be more straight people at all-inclusive conventions. That doesn't make them "straight" conventions.

In a gay one they could be more free with cosplay, less attached to gender roles, gay people could be more free to be openly gay without fear of rejection (no, this does not mean we would be hooking up, we just wouldn't supress that part of ourselves we do every day in public), and there could be gay themed booths. That's just off the top of my head.

As if they aren't free in a regular convention? There is absolutely no discrimination of the LGBT at videogame conventions. They're free to dress and act however they please. They're free to open any booth they want. They have the same freedom of expression as straight people. I just went to AX this year, as I've done many years prior. It's a convention dedicated to anime fans.. ALL anime fans. And guess what? It had a rich culture. Straight, gays, bisexuals, asexuals.. everyone coming together and enjoying anime. There were yaoi booths and yuri booths, just as there were hentai booths. There was areas dedicated to selling shoujo ai and shonen ai. It wasn't excluding gays. It wasn't excluding anyone.

And again, no one is checking your sexuality at the door at any gay event. In fact, they WANT people who are not gay to come.

And you seem to miss the point that it's a convention specifically catered to one specific group of people.


1. You misread the first question.

2. You missed the point. The point is that even if someone wanted to, they couldn't, because gamer conventions are already straight by nature because that's the the biggest demographic: heterosexual men. You have to be living under a rock to not know that they are purposely marketing to THAT demographic with these things. That's how marketing works.

3. The example was in the hypothetical straight convention. It sounds ridiculous because it is since straight conventions already exist in the form of regular gaming conventions and you can't make it any more themed for straight men any more than that without turning it into a burlesque, and even then many would be offended. Oh and for the record, gay functions are almost always all inclusive the same way that non-gay functions generally are. The point is not to invite gay people only, but to make it gay themed.

4. If you want to be treated like a joke. Males in this setting in particular are very restricted in how they dress and act if they want to be broadly accepted. It's not about discrimination but about acceptance.

5. No it's not...
#278ShippoyashaPosted 8/7/2012 12:28:02 AM
Pinoy441 posted...
Read this entire topic only thing i got out of it is gay's are just either really attention hungry


I wouldn't mind this gay pride thing if it wasn't being SHOVED INTO OUR FACES LIKE ZOMG LOOK AT MY SEXUALITY (I live near San Francisco, I already get enough of that as it is)


Isn't that missing the point though?

Homosexuality has and always be marginalized, made fun of, be looked upon as the small minority where the vast majority are heterosexual.

It's precisely because they're a small minority, they have to get their side of the story heard.
Plus, I don't see such issue overtaking your regularly run programming does it?
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#279RPGfreekPosted 8/7/2012 12:28:10 AM
CronoDyne posted...
Isn't this the entire point of a convention?

No. If you're going to cherry pick one part of my post, perhaps you should read the whole thing? Gaymercon promotes the segregation of individuals, proposing that gamers should isolate themselves into sub categories instead of coming together as one cohesive group of people with varying beliefs and lifestyles who share a pastime in common. THAT'S the problem with it.


Gaymercon would be best if everyone came, not just gays. And everyone is invited. Don't let the gay theme stop you.
#280Phan_Boi_ChauPosted 8/7/2012 12:31:11 AM
CronoDyne posted...
Isn't this the entire point of a convention?

No. If you're going to cherry pick one part of my post, perhaps you should read the whole thing? Gaymercon promotes the segregation of individuals, proposing that gamers should isolate themselves into sub categories instead of coming together as one cohesive group of people with varying beliefs and lifestyles who share a pastime in common. THAT'S the problem with it.



I didn't cherry pick anything, I chose one of your points to respond to. The others simply weren't.


How does Gaymercon "promote the segregation of individuals, proposing that gamers should isolate themselves into sub categories instead of coming together as one cohesive group of people with varying beliefs and lifestyles who share a pastime in common?" Can you provide a source or show me where you got this from, other than completely baseless assumptions? Or do other gaming conventions promote the segregation of individuals, proposing that fans of interactive media should isolate themselves into sub categories instead of coming together as one cohesive group of people with varying beliefs and lifestyles who share a pastime in common?
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