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Looking back, launch to right this second, do you feel Ps3's graphics really

#1SophisticationPosted 11/22/2012 8:16:56 PM
advanced all that much?

When we think PS3 we're told to think it's this graphics powerhouse and all that... Games that were touted as "only being able to run on Ps3" don't, to me anyways, seem that impressive by today's standard.


Resistance
Infamous
Heavenly Sword
Uncharted (which I do love the 1st one)

Were, at one time, being touted as not being able to run or be made on any other platform... I don't know if I buy that today. Back then, sure, bought it all. Ate it up... Fed off it. Loved every second of the PR talk.

When reality comes knocking on your door and you see Max Payne 3 and Hitman running on both Ps3 and Xbox 360, regardless of Ps3's versions looking slightly better, it's only a very small margin at best. Not even noticeable to most.

I bring this up because recently I made a statement about Dmc and Ninja theory and how I felt everything they've done has been rubbish, and I stand by that -- But one area in which I deem them inadequate is the graphics department. Another person here said it was because Sony owned the Heavenly Sword engine and all the licenses and what not, so they couldn't further their work on Enslaved or Dmc -- They basically, in a nutshell, had to go with the Unreal Engine.

Ok, fine, whatever.. But even with as Ugly as Enslaved and Dmc are -- Do you feel Heavenly Sword holds up today? I don't have it anymore, so I can't pop it in and look. But going off of screenshots, I don't think the game was that impressive looking in retrospect. I look back on this gen and really, truly feel indifferent about graphics anymore because I don't find games to have amazing graphics -- I just see them as being all kind of the same.

What do you all think? Do you feel graphics have improved on the exclusive side of things with Sony?
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#2RayconPosted 11/22/2012 8:18:36 PM
Looking back, launch to right this second, do you feel Ps3's graphics really advanced all that much?


It's not our fault MGS4 pushed the system to it's limits!
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#3Sophistication(Topic Creator)Posted 11/22/2012 8:23:43 PM
Raycon posted...
Looking back, launch to right this second, do you feel Ps3's graphics really advanced all that much?


It's not our fault MGS4 pushed the system to it's limits!


You feel MGS4 looks that head and shoulders above every other game on the market? Max Payne 3 and Hitman both raised the bar graphically -- there light rendering, shadows, their textures and even, in Payne's case, their facial animations are a cut above anything I've seen. MGS4 is loaded with shoddy textures, low rez ones, everything is muted... Washed out. The animations are archaic and the shadows and light are always static. They never have dynamic lighting in MGS games.

I don't ever, never have, look at MGS 4 and think -- graphics marvel. It looks bland and kind of ugly to me.
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#4Sophistication(Topic Creator)Posted 11/22/2012 8:28:18 PM
I mean, let's compare here...


MGS4 (ps3):

http://cdn.medialib.computerandvideogames.com/screens/screenshot_189802_thumb_wide620.jpg

Far Cry 2 (ps3):

http://www.abjecthubris.com/images/farcry2-01.jpg


But let me further this...


MGS 4 (ps3) tps view:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/164/926596_20080613_screen007.jpg


Far Cry 2 (ps3):

http://i40.tinypic.com/wup8n4.jpg


I'm not taking sides here... I'm just making an observation. Both games came out roughly the same time. Both are on the Ps3. Both pics are used from the Ps3. You decide, man.
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#5RayconPosted 11/22/2012 8:28:56 PM
Sophistication posted...
Raycon posted...
Looking back, launch to right this second, do you feel Ps3's graphics really advanced all that much?


It's not our fault MGS4 pushed the system to it's limits!


You feel MGS4 looks that head and shoulders above every other game on the market? Max Payne 3 and Hitman both raised the bar graphically -- there light rendering, shadows, their textures and even, in Payne's case, their facial animations are a cut above anything I've seen. MGS4 is loaded with shoddy textures, low rez ones, everything is muted... Washed out. The animations are archaic and the shadows and light are always static. They never have dynamic lighting in MGS games.

I don't ever, never have, look at MGS 4 and think -- graphics marvel. It looks bland and kind of ugly to me.


It was a joke.

= /
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#6Thermador446Posted 11/22/2012 8:41:18 PM(edited)
Sophistication posted...
I mean, let's compare here...


MGS4 (ps3):

http://cdn.medialib.computerandvideogames.com/screens/screenshot_189802_thumb_wide620.jpg

Far Cry 2 (ps3):

http://www.abjecthubris.com/images/farcry2-01.jpg


But let me further this...


MGS 4 (ps3) tps view:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/164/926596_20080613_screen007.jpg


Far Cry 2 (ps3):

http://i40.tinypic.com/wup8n4.jpg


I'm not taking sides here... I'm just making an observation. Both games came out roughly the same time. Both are on the Ps3. Both pics are used from the Ps3. You decide, man.


You do realize those are PC screenshots, right?
Consoles don't have quicksave buttons.
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#7ColorfulColorsPosted 11/22/2012 8:48:49 PM
Ehhhh, not sure.
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#8BeastLeeAdamsPosted 11/22/2012 8:53:32 PM
Resistance has the worst graphics I have seen of a game this gen on one of the two HD systems, followed by Dark Souls.
#9Sophistication(Topic Creator)Posted 11/22/2012 9:12:10 PM
Thermador446 posted...
Sophistication posted...
I mean, let's compare here...


MGS4 (ps3):

http://cdn.medialib.computerandvideogames.com/screens/screenshot_189802_thumb_wide620.jpg

Far Cry 2 (ps3):

http://www.abjecthubris.com/images/farcry2-01.jpg


But let me further this...


MGS 4 (ps3) tps view:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/164/926596_20080613_screen007.jpg


Far Cry 2 (ps3):

http://i40.tinypic.com/wup8n4.jpg


I'm not taking sides here... I'm just making an observation. Both games came out roughly the same time. Both are on the Ps3. Both pics are used from the Ps3. You decide, man.


You do realize those are PC screenshots, right?
Consoles don't have quicksave buttons.


I was assured they were Ps3 -- MGS4 is, of course Ps3 -- So hold on and let me get you a Ps3 far cry in game screenshot, since you're not happy with the one I gave you. The one that decimates MGS4 into oblivion.

Far Cry 2 (Ps3) :

http://images.g4tv.com/rimg_606x0/ImageDb3/126863_l/the-fortunes-pack-dlc-bundle.jpg

Oh, wait... It still looks better than MGS4... Ooopps!!! Who knew?

And one thing that bugs me about Uncharted 3 is that the textures actually look worse on the stone work than they do in Uncharted Drake's Fortune. Remember the submerged ruins in U:DF?

Let me re-fresh your memories...


U:DF:

http://www.velocitygamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Uncharted5.jpg

Compare the rocks, the aliasing and everything to this

U3:

http://lazyreviewzzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/uncharted-3-desert-village-shoot-out-1280px-50p.jpg

But it goes even further with Uncharted...

U:DF:

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1492/dscf7944ud7.jpg

Notice the rocks? The detail? How realistic they look?

Now look at these from the lesser game

U3:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6311/20111129182740.jpg


And remember the bar scene in U3?

http://img.hsmagazine.net/2011/11/BarBrawl.jpg

compare that to this... found in Mafia 2

http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Daily/2010/08-Aug/17/Mafia%20II/mafia2-bar--article_image.jpg

You make the call, folks...
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#10CrimsonGear80Posted 11/22/2012 10:20:56 PM
This is how you spend your thanksgiving, eh?
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