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Western developers are ruining the gaming industry

#41Devilman_AmonPosted 11/25/2012 3:06:34 AM(edited)
killak posted...
Entitled, whiny gamers are ruining the industry.

Gamers that think they should be given what they deem acceptable, are ruining the industry

People unable to simple walk away from something they don't want or like, are ruining the industry.


Unlike entitled, whiny gamers, Western devs actually release games for us to play and not trolling BS for us to read


This makes no goddamn sense you know that.

The gamers dont dictate what the publishers decide to do.

Gamers didn't ask for FF, RE, DMC, CV, Ace Combat to be Westernized and influenced by CoD.
Gamers didn't ask for developers to stop being creative and just try to chase after the CoD business model by dumbing down their own games or oversaturating the market with more shooters.
Gamers didn't ask for season passes, online passes, on disc DLC, day one DLC, unfinished games that need to be patched day one, DRM.
Gamers didn't ask for developers to flock to making casual shovelware cell phone games

You're just whining because you're sick of people whining about the corruption of this industry this gen because you're a cheerleader that would rather stick your fingers in your ears and go with the status quo and pretend like nothings happening.
The gamers that are part of the problem are the people conforming to the problem by buying the crap thats being fed to them. Not anyone "complaining".
Matter of fact, the "complainers" represent a small percentage anyway...
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#42Rydiafan013Posted 11/25/2012 3:05:02 AM
a good game is a good game no matter where it's from

Fallout series and Elder Scrolls series are some of the best games out there

Just play the games you wanna play at leave everyone else to do what they wanna do ... is that so hard

no one is forcing you to play western games
#43spectermaster14Posted 11/25/2012 3:07:25 AM
The fact that people blame CoD for any change, upgrade, downgrade, slight alteration to a game - or the snack machine in their office being busted, for that matter - is ruining gaming. Seriously, quit acting like a baby and just ignore things you dislike.
#44AXKSIONPosted 11/25/2012 3:07:25 AM
Devilman_Amon posted...
killak posted...
Entitled, whiny gamers are ruining the industry.

Gamers that think they should be given what they deem acceptable, are ruining the industry

People unable to simple walk away from something they don't want or like, are ruining the industry.


Unlike entitled, whiny gamers, Western devs actually release games for us to play and not trolling BS for us to read


This makes not goddamn sense you know that.

The gamers dont dictate what the publishers decide to do.

Gamers didn't ask for FF, RE, DMC, CV, Ace Combat to be Westernized and influenced by CoD.
Gamers didn't ask for season passes, online passes, on disc DLC, day one DLC, unfinished games that need to be patched day one, DRM.
Gamers didn't ask for developers to flock to making cell phone games

You're just whining because you're sick of people whining about the corruption of this industry this gen because you're a cheerleader that would rather stick your fingers in your ears and go with the status quo and pretend like nothings happening.
The gamers that are part of the problem are the people conforming to the problem by buying the crap thats being fed to them. Not anyone "complaining".
Matter of fact, the "complainers" represent a small percentage anyway...

Hey buddy boy. Don't let him get your goat. Killook is a lost cause, much like Crimston Gear.

Those two like every game, and even defend games that are 100% QTE like Asura's Wrath. They'll buy garbage that is spoon fed to them, as they have no standards.
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#45majin nemesisPosted 11/25/2012 3:09:44 AM
YamiJonz posted...
You people need to open your eyes. The golden days of ps1and 2 are over. The vast majority of japanese game are trash now. They have become forgetable and uninspired, relying way too heavily on anime styling and cover art, offering little to no substance at all. And that is because they fail to grow with time and technology.


but they always had anime styling and cover art.
no substance?forgetable and uninspired?
lol no
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#46AalviPosted 11/25/2012 3:12:07 AM
actually, it sounds like Japan couldn't take the heat and just bailed out, with some developers conforming to make game franchises more western(FF,DMC,RE).

Also JPN seemed to be at their best in the times PSX and before, with PS2 showing a bit of decline.
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#47Sonic2ShadowPosted 11/25/2012 3:15:25 AM
By definition, 99% of video games are RPG's. Mass Effect and Borderlands are RPG's. So they have third person shooting aspects or 1st person shooting aspects? At the core, they're Role Playing Games where you play the role of a character that you typically get to advance and customize yourself in some way or form to your liking as you progress the story.

So it doesn't have random battles like a Final Fantasy game, turn based combat doesn't determine an RPG, as obvious by games like the "Tales of" series or Star Ocean series (real time combat). If combat determined the style of an RPG, well Borderlands and Mass Effect are just another form of real time combat, just utilizing a different gameplay structure.

Seriously, is Metal Gear Solid not a stealth action game just because you can somewhat run and gun (in first person no less)? Deus Ex Human Revolution made Adam die very quickly in gunfire, so stealth was almost manditory for the whole game, though you could play the majority of the game without touching a gun, despite it being in the first person perspective.
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#48singhellotakuPosted 11/25/2012 3:19:34 AM
The first mass effect was an rpg, a bad one, but an rpg nonetheless, Borderlands is an rpg in the same way as diablo or any other loot based hack and slash, its just a hack and shoot or something, I do really miss classic turn based RPG's though.
#49Devilman_AmonPosted 11/25/2012 3:22:38 AM(edited)
spectermaster14 posted...
The fact that people blame CoD for any change, upgrade, downgrade, slight alteration to a game - or the snack machine in their office being busted, for that matter - is ruining gaming. Seriously, quit acting like a baby and just ignore things you dislike.


How is that "ruining gaming"? Are they investors? Shareholders? Corporate CEO's? What's their opinion on a game forum have anything to do with the impact of the industry? Seriously do you even listen to what you say?
Money changes things. Corporate decisions from the top changes things. Not some random opinions flying around by a few hundred people on a game forum. You think the people here blaming CoD are buying CoD games you genius? Hell no. And their complaining isn't stopping or interfering with CoD's business sales nor is it influencing any CoD or CoD "wannabee" developer from doing what they want to do.

Sales are dictating that. Square-Enix changed FF because they are chasing after the CoD game model. They SAID it themselves. Resident Evil now plays more like a run and gun CoD/Gears game because Capcom sees that is what sells in the West.

Freakin Donte from DmC is holding two guns on the cover like he's a CoD shooter (despite the fact he uses a sword mostly and the guns being now useless in the game. Seriously you can't kill anyone with the guns alone wtf), the game is made with crap Unreal Engine, supremely dumbed down gameplay, glitching already in the demo, running on half the framerate, and made by a pompous Western developer because Capcom is trying to cater to the West because thats what they think Westerners want. I'm surprised its not even in first person.

And Western reviewers are being paid under the table to push these games out (the FPS like CoD), despite them being the same game more or less each year.
You seen the controversy recently with Geoff Knightley.
Reviewers have been compromised.

Konami westernized Castlevania to play like God of War.
Namco westernized Ace Combat to be CoD in the "sky".
No amount of "complaining" by people on a forum or two is making any "difference" or "ruining " anything.
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#50Sevi_neyPosted 11/25/2012 3:22:58 AM
More like, they tried to grow, but did so with too much emphasis on plotless vapid anime filled with regurgitated juvenile characterization who would lament themselves to no end if they took a leak in the river.
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