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So what the hell was Sony thinking this gen?

#81NESHeroPosted 12/7/2012 1:35:00 PM
tangnets posted...
Disclaimer: I like the PS3 and think it's overall a pretty decent system

Starting the price at $599?
Releasing the controller without rumble?
Letting big name PS2 exclusive series like Final Fantasy, Devil may Cry, and Tekken go multiplatform
Games like TLG and Versus 13 having no release in sight
Removing PS2 BC?
Not taking preventative measures against the PSN hack(though they handled the aftermath well)

Sony has really been dropping the ball this gen. What's been up? They were the kings with the PS2.


Final Fantasy was never exclusive, before the PS2 era, During the PS2 era and after the PS2 era.
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#82NicodimusPosted 12/7/2012 1:57:03 PM
From: Sighto | #079
Nicodimus posted...
From: theofficefan99 | #032
Final Fantasy is ALWAYS a killer app, and it is ALWAYS a system seller, no matter how contentious the last installment was.


This could be argued as late as 2002. In 2012, it's simply not true. The franchise has been terribly damaged over the last decade.

Because you and the rest of the peanut gallery didn't enjoy the FFXIII games?
I don't think so.


No, that's only the most recent Final Fantasy debacle. The damage has really been every release since FFX.

FFXI: MMO with a monthly fee - turned a majority of people off
FFXII: Weak story, felt like a single player MMO - turned most people off
FFXIII: Weak story, super linear, pretty graphics - most people were yet again disappointed and at this point have really lost faith in SE
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#83deathsaber79Posted 12/7/2012 1:59:09 PM
They were far out in right field until the slim came out at $300. Since then its been all good.

Hopefully they've now learned, if they can't get a SKU out at $300, don't bother releasing it.
#84SightoPosted 12/7/2012 1:59:12 PM
Those three games also drew in a ton of fans.
Final Fantasy has one of the most fragmented fanbases of any series due to their constant changes.
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#85digidevilwilPosted 12/7/2012 5:19:56 PM
Nicodimus posted...
From: Sighto | #079
Nicodimus posted...
From: theofficefan99 | #032
Final Fantasy is ALWAYS a killer app, and it is ALWAYS a system seller, no matter how contentious the last installment was.


This could be argued as late as 2002. In 2012, it's simply not true. The franchise has been terribly damaged over the last decade.

Because you and the rest of the peanut gallery didn't enjoy the FFXIII games?
I don't think so.


No, that's only the most recent Final Fantasy debacle. The damage has really been every release since FFX.

FFXI: MMO with a monthly fee - turned a majority of people off
FFXII: Weak story, felt like a single player MMO - turned most people off
FFXIII: Weak story, super linear, pretty graphics - most people were yet again disappointed and at this point have really lost faith in SE


And yet everyone is banking on v13. No faith has been lost. The market is just becoming broader and more competitive as a whole. It's not like in the past where the major talent and power was more concentrated within a few companies.
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#86Gandalf the IstariPosted 12/7/2012 6:06:01 PM
pokemon_45_79_1 posted...
From: Universquall | Posted: 12/7/2012 10:45:46 AM | #061
Gandalf the Istari posted...
This ignores the reality that PS3 is essentially operating in 3 markets while Xbox operates in 2.


True. A lot of people are clinging to that since MS gave up yet again.
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Sony is operating in 3 markets, MS is only 1 really now,can't count the asian market as one technically, Japan is part of the asian market.

If MS really wanted to gain better exposure else where they need to expand.


I was talking about NA, PAL and Asian, so I guess you could say 4 and 2 - either way. MS has sold just as many consoles to a group that consists of almost 1/2 as many people.
#87Gandalf the IstariPosted 12/7/2012 6:17:53 PM
Nicodimus posted...
From: Sighto | #079
Nicodimus posted...
From: theofficefan99 | #032
Final Fantasy is ALWAYS a killer app, and it is ALWAYS a system seller, no matter how contentious the last installment was.


This could be argued as late as 2002. In 2012, it's simply not true. The franchise has been terribly damaged over the last decade.

Because you and the rest of the peanut gallery didn't enjoy the FFXIII games?
I don't think so.


No, that's only the most recent Final Fantasy debacle. The damage has really been every release since FFX.

FFXI: MMO with a monthly fee - turned a majority of people off
FFXII: Weak story, felt like a single player MMO - turned most people off
FFXIII: Weak story, super linear, pretty graphics - most people were yet again disappointed and at this point have really lost faith in SE


XI was hugely successful and is still a great source of income for the company - it's made more money than basically any other entry in the series. The only people who were "turned off" by it were people who don't play mmos/13 year olds who don't have 12$ a month.