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Metal Gear Ray boss battle, holy ****, WE WON!!!!!!!!

#21OtakuGameraPosted 12/7/2012 7:51:27 AM
cardboard box!! (3:15)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3brY79OZ90
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#22Sephivengeance9Posted 12/7/2012 8:04:34 AM
Bestia_Somnia posted...
Sephivengeance9 posted...
Judge a character based on gameplay mechanics. Riiiight.

Regardless, it's not too far removed from the canon, look at that scene in Shadow Moses where Raiden held back Outer Haven with one arm gone, he may have EVENTUALLY given way, but the fact remains he still held back a massive island sized strong-hold by himself.


Raiden holding back a oversized ship that was also being slown down by the ice it was crashing into, is on a completely different scale.

The force of something pushing and the force of something slamming with all it's weight are two different things. Even if Raiden himself has somehow impossibly quadrupled his strength in such a short time. There's no way that his blade would survive that. And Raiden showed slightly superhuman speeds in MGS4, but now he's capable of running faster than a moving train and so fast that missiles are mere stepping stones for him?

Even works of fiction have their limits. The MGS series has always gotten crazier with each game, but these scenes in MGR are on a whole other level of their own. It's like the crazy jumped up another dozen notches, but in a shorter amount of time. It comes off as being stupid and nonsensical, even for the Metal Gear series.


What makes you say that, though? He used his sword to hold himself in place while he held back Outer Haven, but all rights there the sword should have snapped given the kind of force that would have been pushing against it. Besides, which, the technology in the MGS universe has always been shown to advance impossibly/be ahead of its time-frame throughout the series in one way or another, what's to say that simply hasn't happened again and Raiden has access to top-of-the-line stuff?

In terms of super-human strength and speed, I'm pretty sure canon-wise the only human pieces of Raiden left are his head and spine (that may need to be checked, I can't remember off the top of my head) meaning the rest of his body is entirely mechanical, which kind of plays into my point on technology in the MGS universe. The new body is probably similarly top-of-the-line stuff.

Just, guesses and speculation, but you should be able to see where I'm going with this. It's kind of hard to put a limit on a universe where the limits keep changing based on the sometimes ridiculous technological advances made in said universe. Kind of like Nanomachines capable of preventing cancer and granting apparent immortality to their host.

(I could rant on and on about why Vamp's apparent immortality did NOT need to be explained, but I won't)
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#23Bestia_SomniaPosted 12/7/2012 8:11:26 AM
I don't think that the healing aspects of Nanomachines were really all that farfetched. I see no reason why Nanomachines could not attack and/or replace certain cells to cure someone of an illness. Isn't healing one of the main uses of Nanomachines that most works of fiction use them for. Theoritically you could be be near-immortal if Nanomachines replaced most of your cells or continued to repair your cells. At the very least you would last several lifetimes if you had constant regeneration like that.
#24-Damien-Posted 12/7/2012 8:13:38 AM
Cant' wait to play this game AND DmC
#25AXKSIONPosted 12/7/2012 8:19:19 AM
-Damien- posted...
Cant' wait to play this game AND DmC

Why the hell would you or anyone ever want to play DmC?
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#26Sephivengeance9Posted 12/7/2012 8:20:03 AM
Bestia_Somnia posted...
I don't think that the healing aspects of Nanomachines were really all that farfetched. I see no reason why Nanomachines could not attack and/or replace certain cells to cure someone of an illness. Isn't healing one of the main uses of Nanomachines that most works of fiction use them for. Theoritically you could be be near-immortal if Nanomachines replaced most of your cells or continued to repair your cells. At the very least you would last several lifetimes if you had constant regeneration like that.


That was kind of what I was getting at, if technology can be advanced enough to accomplish that, why can't it be advanced enough to achieve other things?
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#27-Damien-Posted 12/7/2012 8:22:09 AM
AXKSION posted...
-Damien- posted...
Cant' wait to play this game AND DmC

Why the hell would you or anyone ever want to play DmC?


why not?

take off your hater goggles-off, the demo plays great
#28majin nemesisPosted 12/7/2012 8:23:29 AM
that was awesome
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#29yahya_no_1Posted 12/7/2012 8:25:50 AM
Devil May what? this looks crazy good!!!!
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#30LunarRoarPosted 12/7/2012 8:27:02 AM
JONlCS posted...
HOW THE HELL CAN RAIDEN LIFT AND THROW THAT?!!?!?!


Considering he managed to stop the entirety that was Arsenal Gear with ONE ARM in MGS4, lifting a mass production model of Metal Gear Ray really shouldn't be an issue.
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