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Question about playing a PS2 on a HDTV

#11TaKun782(Topic Creator)Posted 1/13/2013 12:23:50 PM
Miharin posted...
SD is just fine, as long as you're using a good quality CRT television :)


I have a 42 inch LG
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#12JoveHackPosted 1/13/2013 12:24:30 PM
TaKun782 posted...
Rafedx posted...
Yes it is, also when you do get it make sure you change the video settings on the PS2 to the proper one.


Ok cool. At least they are pretty cheap now, i can get one for a dollar, lol.
Anyways, can you give me a quick walk through on how to do that?


We've covered this a lot over on the PS2 board. If you've got questions about pretty much anything, then we've got answers.

Here's the procedure for changing the Component Out setting.
http://ps2.wikia.com/wiki/HDTV#Changing_the_Component_Video_out_Blind

That page has pretty much everything we've come up with on the PS2 board.

You want to set Component Out to Y Pb Cr. (If that's wrong, then change it back.)

That setting doesn't affect the video on the original composite cables. So you can always use them if you don't want to go through it blind.

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

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#13behindamirrorPosted 1/13/2013 12:24:38 PM
TaKun782 posted...
Oh ya, another thing... i know that the older systems had this feature to run games in a "Progressive scan mode". Basically that means for the certain games that had that, when used with component cable, would make the game look much better? Am i right on that so far?


I believe most if not all the games that came with progressive scan on the ps2 has been rereleased in HD on PS3.
#14MiharinPosted 1/13/2013 12:28:36 PM
TaKun782 posted...
Miharin posted...
SD is just fine, as long as you're using a good quality CRT television :)


I have a 42 inch LG


Well if that is a CRT TV (read: not flat), it must weigh over a 100 kilos :)
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#15JoveHackPosted 1/13/2013 12:28:58 PM
TaKun782 posted...
Miharin posted...
SD is just fine, as long as you're using a good quality CRT television :)


I have a 42 inch LG


That will be fine. You'll probably have to reduce the Sharpness setting to zero to minimize jagged edges, pixelation, and general graphical artifacts.

And maybe sit farther away from the screen, if you're within eight feet or so.

The main thing is that every game will look different. Some games will look terrible no matter what. Others can look flat awesome, especially the ones that support true widescreen and progressive scan.

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#16JoveHackPosted 1/13/2013 12:58:55 PM(edited)
Miharin posted...
In TV language, 480p.


The vast majority of them will be 480i. A few are 240p, just like the PS1 games. Some games support 480p. (See wikipedia link in previous post.)

Two games support 1080i.


behindamirror posted...
TaKun782 posted...
Oh ya, another thing... i know that the older systems had this feature to run games in a "Progressive scan mode". Basically that means for the certain games that had that, when used with component cable, would make the game look much better? Am i right on that so far?


I believe most if not all the games that came with progressive scan on the ps2 has been rereleased in HD on PS3.


That's a good guess. I had to check the wikipedia page to see it's not true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_2_games_with_HD_support

Gran Turismo 4 and Tourist Trophy support 1080i. They're unlikely to ever have HD upgrades. Unless you count Gran Turismo 5, which had a lot of the GT4 car models.

I find that 480p and 1080i make the games look even better.

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#17TaKun782(Topic Creator)Posted 1/13/2013 1:03:11 PM
JoveHack posted...
TaKun782 posted...
Miharin posted...
SD is just fine, as long as you're using a good quality CRT television :)


I have a 42 inch LG


That will be fine. You'll probably have to reduce the Sharpness setting to zero to minimize jagged edges, pixelation, and general graphical artifacts.

And maybe sit farther away from the screen, if you're within eight feet or so.

The main thing is that every game will look different. Some games will look terrible no matter what. Others can look flat awesome, especially the ones that support true widescreen and progressive scan.


True. But there are a good list of games i truly care about playing again in a better picture. Like Freedom Fighters supports widescreen, 16:9 ratio. Games that support that at least should look pretty good. And my LG is a flat screen by the way. I dont even know what a CRT TV is anyhow, lol.

I just bought that one for 49 cents. But in the end, i just want to play those old games in a decent looking picture when it all comes down to it having them on my LG TV.
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#18JoveHackPosted 1/13/2013 2:01:24 PM
TaKun782 posted...
True. But there are a good list of games i truly care about playing again in a better picture. Like Freedom Fighters supports widescreen, 16:9 ratio. Games that support that at least should look pretty good. And my LG is a flat screen by the way. I dont even know what a CRT TV is anyhow, lol.


Some of the games that support widescreen do so by chopping off the top and bottom of the screen. One-eighth gets cut at each end, meaning 25% of the viewing area is lost. This can be pretty bad, particularly in platformers.

This page has a section discussing the various types of widescreen support. Lists some games that support widescreen and how they do it.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/915821-playstation-2/wiki/3-3-ps2-on-hdtv#%20Games%20with%20Widescreen%20Support%20


I don't know how Freedom Fighters does it.

I just bought that one for 49 cents. But in the end, i just want to play those old games in a decent looking picture when it all comes down to it having them on my LG TV.


We should be able to accomplish that.

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#19archizzyPosted 1/13/2013 2:13:24 PM
JoveHack posted...


You want to set Component Out to Y Pb Cr. (If that's wrong, then change it back.)





Sorry to nitpick but there is Y PbPr and Y CbCr. The PbPr is analog while the CbCr is digital. A component cable obviously will always be analog. A component cable never will have Y CbCr as a designation.

The way it is written is mixing and matching
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#20JoveHackPosted 1/13/2013 2:20:22 PM(edited)
archizzy posted...
Sorry to nitpick but there is Y PbPr and Y CbCr. The PbPr is analog while the CbCr is digital. A component cable obviously will always be analog. A component cable never will have Y CbCr as a designation.

The way it is written is mixing and matching


Looking at the PS2 System Configuration as I type.

Component Video Out: "Y Cb/Pb Cr/Pr" is option that works for my HDTV.

RGB is the other. I believe it's for European PAL TVs.

So you are correct, I had the wrong designation for the setting.

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