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By the end of its of life time PS3 will still cross 100 million mark. Amazing

#81-Damien-(Topic Creator)Posted 1/15/2013 2:37:54 PM
jsb0714 posted...
-Damien- posted...
Sony is 3 for 3 as far as producing successful consoles, defined as selling over 100 million

Microsoft is 1 for 2 (Assuming 360 will also cross 100M like PS3)

Nintendo 1 for 5 (the worst record)

Any more question about the best brand in gaming?


So any console selling under 100 million is unsuccessful? That might be a tad inaccurate.


Those are OK, but they are not defined as huge succesful consoles

Anything less than 50M should be defined as failure, Nintendo has 3 of them, thats bad
#82LuminescentRulePosted 1/15/2013 5:26:28 PM
From: FISTY919 | #005
And the 360 is a year older and on average more expensive, still doesn't change the fact that PS3 sales this year are down, not the worst they've ever been, but they're getting there. I'd expect NPD to post a couple of near 100k numbers in 2013.


First, on average doesn't matter. If one version is at $100 and the other at $1000, the average is $550 but people will still buy the $100 one. The 4GB Xbox360 is $199 so that cheaper than any available PS3. In addition to that, over the life of the PS3, it has been much, much more expensive than the 360. It launched at $600 in the US and that was the lowest price worldwide.

And NPD only tracks US numbers. Worldwide, the PS3 sold more on average per year than the 360.


I don't think anything announced for the PS3 will stem the curb. Yes, lack of releases was a big problem for the PS3 this year, which is why it's declining, it would have been easier to prevent it rather than turn it back.


If you think GoW:Ascension and The Last of Us won't spur sales, then you've been living under a rock. In addition to that, the PS3 gets a lot of those niche titles that individually don't sell a lot of PS3s but combined push a lot of hardware. Sly 4 and Ni No Kuni will be 2 of those.


Bear in mind, PS2 sold 4 million last year and they pulled the plug. in 2013 you'd be looking at maybe 8-9 million PS3's, then next gen hits it'll be down to 4-5 million the following year...and Sony makes less profit on PS3's than PS2's.


8-9 million PS3s if there's no price drop. A price drop and the PS3 will sell 12M+ easily, especially with games like GoW:A, TLoU and GTA5. A lot of you who don't believe that the PS3 will top 100M units sold are very blinkered. You fail to realise that PS systems sell in more regions than just NA, Europe and Japan.

As for the profit on each PS3 vs. PS2 comment, I say so? We're talking about what console will win this gen and that means in terms of hardware sold.
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#83Raven-ZPosted 1/15/2013 5:48:16 PM
It will easily break 100mil, given the fact that it's nearly at 80mil after 7 years, the price continually dropping, new low-price SKU's and the emergent markets like India and Brazil where the PS2 is STILL SELLING TODAY.

10-year plan. Sony always play the long game. Can't see it outselling the Wii, but those two consoles are basically separate categories.
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#84killakPosted 1/15/2013 5:50:30 PM
From: FearPotion | #079
AceAndJunpei posted...
ScreamingMidget posted...
PS3 dead last!

Sony always loses, baby!


Indeed.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-01-14-xbox-360-not-wii-to-win-this-console-generation

"Xbox 360 to win this generation"

Ouch brony!


LMAO. Hey Xbot, take a geography class and learn the difference between U.S. and worldwide with the link you provided.

360 dead last. Deal with it! Muaahahhahahaha....

Xbot tears like yours are so delicious.... yummy. :D


Thankfully you don't represent the PS3 fans, or the fanboys, but rather the sad sad branch of delusional people who happen to own a PS3.

May you get the help you need.
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#85Warmonger222Posted 1/15/2013 6:22:18 PM
The Wii is gonna sell 300 million before its retired.

Saying something makes it true.
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#86LuminescentRulePosted 1/15/2013 6:28:40 PM
From: Warmonger222 | #001
The Wii is gonna sell 300 million before its retired.

Saying something makes it true.


Ladies and gentlemen, what we have here is a what we call a drone or Nintendo fanboy. You can recognize it by its lack of common sense.
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#87Hustler NinePosted 1/16/2013 4:51:00 AM
Spiroth_Kweehh posted...
Lelouch71 posted...
Quaguaman posted...
It will be interesting to see if the wii stays in first place for this gen as the next few years go by. From what I have heard it has not been selling to well at all compared to the other two recently, so sony might take the lead in the next few years and be in first place again


You know how pathetic that sounds. Sony has to wait until both MS and Nintendo to move on to become number 1 for gen 7. Everyone who has enough sense would have already moved on by then. The PS1 and PS2 didn't even need a full 10 years to get the job done. They didn't even need 5 years. Hell the DS is not even 10 years old and it already matching the PS2 in total sales. Like I keep saying only insecure fanboys give a crap about this. The fact is Sony screwed up. It's better to hope that Sony return to form with the PS4.



I usually completely agree with your posts (especially on FINAL FANTASY) whenever I see them, but this time I'm sorry but I will have to disagree.

1) Both PS3 and XBOX360 have the (very likely) chance to 1up Wii. The fact that Nintendo withdrew because they were had huge decline in sales, doesn't give them a free pass.
In a Martial Arts fight, you don't win if you are ahead of your opponent in a 5-0 score.
You either KO him (see Dreamcast), or play until end.
If you win by 5-0 points, and you leave the match, you lose.
If PS3 and XBOX360 surpasses Wii (say in 2015), then Wii is last in this gen.

If you can't forecast the future and are forced to withdraw because of poor sales after a few years when your "opponents" keep rising, you deserve to lose your place, if it happens. No excuses.

Like SONY was dedicated to eat it up for years straight just to stay in the game, Nintendo will have too.
And for SONY, that exactly was the plan since day 1. An actual, 10 year full cycle. No, not a PS1/PS2 10 year cycle. A full 10 year cycle. (see upcoming games for proof). So everything goes according to plan for them.

Also, don't forget the price difference not only between PS3 and Wii/360, but also between PS3 and PS1/PS2 at this point in their life. Imagine the sales PS3 would get if it went 99$, or at 150$ with FINAL FANTASY Versus XIII bundle.


Imo, both PS3 and 360 will outsell Wii, with PS3 reaching a huge install base of 110 (or even 120 if SONY makes the price PS1/PS2 level) million consoles.
Especially after PS4 launch, and PS3 price drop.

And again imo, SONY will have made a tremendous win this gen, Nintendo will have deserved their last place because of their short term vision, and Microsoft will have missed an opportunity. If it happens.

2) DS has nothing to do with this.


Well done! True my friend. Thank you for the awesome post. There are a lot of facts in your post people seems to forget or don't understand.

PS3 will indeed outsell Wii.
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#88FISTY919Posted 1/17/2013 12:51:05 PM
<First, on average doesn't matter. If one version is at $100 and the other at $1000, the average is $550 but people will still buy the $100 one.

Except that's not the case. HDD 360's outsell non-HDD 360s.

The 4GB Xbox360 is $199 so that cheaper than any available PS3.

The 12 GB PS3 is cheaper over here than the 4GB 360.

In addition to that, over the life of the PS3, it has been much, much more expensive than the 360.

PS3 has been significantly more expensive for 1 year and 1 year only, then it was slightly more expensive (2 years) then it was the same price (2 years) now it's cheaper (nearly 18 months)

It launched at $600 in the US and that was the lowest price worldwide.

You mean $500.

And NPD only tracks US numbers. Worldwide, the PS3 sold more on average per year than the 360.

It's also had the most pricedrops.

$350 vs $100.

And came from a 150 million selling system vs a 24 million selling one.

If you think GoW:Ascension and The Last of Us won't spur sales, then you've been living under a rock.

They won't because there's more water sinking the ship then these 2 watering cans can bail out.

In addition to that, the PS3 gets a lot of those niche titles that individually don't sell a lot of PS3s but combined push a lot of hardware. Sly 4 and Ni No Kuni will be 2 of those.

No they won't. This is going to be the worst selling year yet.

8-9 million PS3s if there's no price drop.

There won't be, Sony needs to cripple their gaming division with a Vita price drop and launch the PS4, plus they had to raise the price $10 this year because they make no money on PS3. 8-9 million is optimistic as well, it'll be mid 7's

A price drop and the PS3 will sell 12M+ easily, especially with games like GoW:A, TLoU and GTA5.

PS3 won't sell above 10 million again. There's no slow burn, this is it. The wall.

A lot of you who don't believe that the PS3 will top 100M units sold are very blinkered. You fail to realise that PS systems sell in more regions than just NA, Europe and Japan.

Because all evidence points to the contrary. Sales worse than ever and far more important projects to worry about than getting to 100 million.
#89LuminescentRulePosted 1/17/2013 3:35:15 PM
From: FISTY919 | #001
Except that's not the case. HDD 360's outsell non-HDD 360s.


Source?


The 12 GB PS3 is cheaper over here than the 4GB 360.


Can you link me to the 12 GB PS3 on Gamestop of Amazon? Because last I checked that was a Europe specific and it's more expensive than the 4GB 360 on Amazon.co.uk so stop lying.


PS3 has been significantly more expensive for 1 year and 1 year only, then it was slightly more expensive (2 years) then it was the same price (2 years) now it's cheaper (nearly 18 months)


Nopes, only the slim was affordable and it was still more expensive than the 360 worldwide and the XBox360 Pro was $250 while the PS3 slim was $300.


You mean $500.


No - $600.


It's also had the most pricedrops.

$350 vs $100.


Only because the 360 was so much cheaper at launch. And depending on what bundle you're looking at, it's more than $100. And the PS3 still more expensive - it's $1000 in Brazil, remember. More than $250 in the US where it is the cheapest available worldwide.
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#90LuminescentRulePosted 1/17/2013 3:35:36 PM
And came from a 150 million selling system vs a 24 million selling one.


So? Finishing number 1 is finishing number 1.


They won't because there's more water sinking the ship then these 2 watering cans can bail out.


Running out of argument?


No they won't. This is going to be the worst selling year yet.


No chance. They'll easily sell more than 8.7M.


There won't be, Sony needs to cripple their gaming division with a Vita price drop and launch the PS4, plus they had to raise the price $10 this year because they make no money on PS3. 8-9 million is optimistic as well, it'll be mid 7's


Their last price cut was in 2011. The gaming division has been been profitable for some time now - check the financials if you don't believe me. The manufacturing costs of both the Vita and the PS3 has gone down since they last had a price cut, no to mention that with the Vita, they are probably making a profit on each system sold.


PS3 won't sell above 10 million again. There's no slow burn, this is it. The wall.


They will... easily.

All evidence points to supporting my point. You have 0 evidence that backs your statement. You don't even know what the emerging markets are.

In any case, let me know when the PS3 stops selling and it hasn't reached 100M, ok?
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