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mistermikeymike
Posted 1/19/2013 9:51:44 PM
FFX-2 was completely developed by square. Released in Japan by square. Released everywhere else by SE

FFX whether you believe it's a good game or not basically foreshadowed the extremely linear moviegame that was ff13.

X and X-2 also had rather unlikeable main characters.

Sakaguchi and Uematsu had left. Im sure there are others who left during that time as well.

More likely than not, Square was going off the deep end independent of the merger.

They lost the people that made FF great. Their games showed a steady decline into the void that we shall only know as Final Fantasy XIII.
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Shineboxer
Posted 1/19/2013 9:52:56 PM
No, continuing to release the same trash did.
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Emerald_Melios
Posted 1/20/2013 5:04:51 PM
mistermikeymike posted...

They lost the people that made FF great. Their games showed a steady decline into the void that we shall only know as Final Fantasy XIII.


And yet, it and its sequel are still popular and well-received, and sold far more than 90% of all AAA HD games.
DocDelicious
Posted 1/20/2013 5:09:16 PM
Emerald_Melios posted...
mistermikeymike posted...

They lost the people that made FF great. Their games showed a steady decline into the void that we shall only know as Final Fantasy XIII.


And yet, it and its sequel are still popular and well-received, and sold far more than 90% of all AAA HD games.


Sales do not a good game make.

Anyway, XIII-2 was half decent at least. LR has gone back on pretty much everything they fixed in 2 though lol. I don't understand that thinking at all.
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BaseChouGoku
Posted 1/20/2013 5:12:17 PM
Emerald_Melios posted...
mistermikeymike posted...

They lost the people that made FF great. Their games showed a steady decline into the void that we shall only know as Final Fantasy XIII.


And yet, it and its sequel are still popular and well-received, and sold far more than 90% of all AAA HD games.


No they are on a decline. They've reduced their library to primarily FF & DQ and FF XIV was a severe embarrassment and cost them millions of dollars. Thats why we are getting these rushed cash in XIII sequels. When the head of S-E says the future is in smartphones and consoles will be gone then you know they are drinking the crazy juice.




The problem is when Wada rose to power in just 6 short months after the merge. He sucks and he is an idiot. Then there is Toriyama who is a hack. Finally there is Watanabe who couldn't write himself out of a paper bag.
stawg007
Posted 1/20/2013 5:14:40 PM
Because X is considered the last great FF and I believe it was the last Squaresoft game without Enix
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RyuuHou25
Posted 1/20/2013 5:15:14 PM
Emerald_Melios posted...
mistermikeymike posted...

They lost the people that made FF great. Their games showed a steady decline into the void that we shall only know as Final Fantasy XIII.


And yet, it and its sequel are still popular and well-received, and sold far more than 90% of all AAA HD games.


13 sold well purely on the fact that it was FF. Many people, myself included, blindly believed in SE and FF and wanted another FF title that when it was finally released, of course we threw our money at them *laughs*

The massive drop in sales numbers from 13 to its sequel is all the information that needs to be shown to see that it was a fluke and sold well because it was FF. I know a lot of people like 13, and a lot of people also hate 13, and they were pretty vocal about it (again, myself included)

I didn't bother with 13-2 and I'm not bothering with 13-3 either.
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mistermikeymike
(Topic Creator)
Posted 1/20/2013 9:51:39 PM
stawg007 posted...
Because X is considered the last great FF and I believe it was the last Squaresoft game without Enix


x-2 was developed by square independent of enix. the only thing that enix did for x-2 was release it in the states
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Ryan Si
Posted 1/20/2013 10:33:11 PM
Emerald_Melios posted...
mistermikeymike posted...

They lost the people that made FF great. Their games showed a steady decline into the void that we shall only know as Final Fantasy XIII.


And yet, it and its sequel are still popular and well-received, and sold far more than 90% of all AAA HD games.


What is that supposed to mean? I bought FFXIII and think it's terrible and judging by the massive amount of hate and constant discussion of the "Fall of Square/SE"....I'm not the only one.

Well-received? By who, a minority of gamers. XIII-2 plummeted in price in the blink of an eye.
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Bekness
Posted 1/20/2013 10:36:25 PM
I'm not sure. Lots of people don't know Enix delayed the merge because of the spirits within.
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