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I dont understand why people are against buying used

#51gamestop27Posted 2/10/2013 11:05:45 AM
An observation made in one of the other threads about this topic.

YukitoRambo posted...
I'm amazed that, by some crazy concidence or will of Jesus or something, suddenly a bunch of people who support corporate entities making policies that will blatantly rip people off come out and impose their case on nearly all mainstream gaming message boards around the same time the news of the new XBox RUMOR came out. This? When no one was willing to support the idea back when just a hint of the suggestion to ban used games came to light a while back?

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#52WinternovaPosted 2/10/2013 11:08:59 AM
gamestop27 posted...
An observation made in one of the other threads about this topic.

YukitoRambo posted...
I'm amazed that, by some crazy concidence or will of Jesus or something, suddenly a bunch of people who support corporate entities making policies that will blatantly rip people off come out and impose their case on nearly all mainstream gaming message boards around the same time the news of the new XBox RUMOR came out. This? When no one was willing to support the idea back when just a hint of the suggestion to ban used games came to light a while back?


They've been around for a long time - that's just an incorrect perception caused by an inherent bias against Microsoft.
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#53abnergoinbigPosted 2/10/2013 11:09:01 AM
The industry will fix itself. People who only buy used will get the new consoles either way and just wait for cheaper prices (which will still happen). It doesn't matter if used games are blocked this coming gen or the one after, They're going to be blocked sooner than we think.
#54Jinzo 111887Posted 2/10/2013 11:37:55 AM(edited)
From: abnergoinbig | #053
The industry will fix itself. People who only buy used will get the new consoles either way and just wait for cheaper prices (which will still happen). It doesn't matter if used games are blocked this coming gen or the one after, They're going to be blocked sooner than we think.

And maybe get sued for it, too. Europe legalized used digital games, and the Supreme Court ruled that copyright did not give companies the right to interfere with used products. Here's the link to the article about the Supreme Court ruling:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111117/03284416803/court-tells-omega-copyright-is-not-sword-rejects-attempt-to-control-grey-market-as-copyright-misuse.shtml

In short, I don't think they would legally be able to do so.
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#55Valnor50Posted 2/10/2013 11:36:49 AM
Anarchy612 posted...


the direct act of banning used games doesn't decrease sales...the reprecussions of said ban (loss of customer loyalty/faith, boycotts, etc.) however, will greatly reduce sales of systems and games.

anyone with half a brain can see it is a lose-lose idea


^That. You lack the ability to critically think if you think abolishing the used game trade is in any way positive.
#56WinternovaPosted 2/10/2013 11:38:17 AM
Valnor50 posted...
Anarchy612 posted...


the direct act of banning used games doesn't decrease sales...the reprecussions of said ban (loss of customer loyalty/faith, boycotts, etc.) however, will greatly reduce sales of systems and games.

anyone with half a brain can see it is a lose-lose idea


^That. You lack the ability to critically think if you think abolishing the used game trade is in any way positive.


If you work for a publisher, you could rationally think that.
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#57Kira0987Posted 2/10/2013 11:39:45 AM
The same reason there are supporters of communism TC. They are idiots.
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#58regsantotomasPosted 2/10/2013 11:41:22 AM
It's difficult to have any sort of serious conversation when this issue always devolves to the usual finger pointing. If one follows these topics, you would think that the only two type of gamers are corporate sycophants or entitled whiners.

I submit that those caricatures are the exceptions rather than the rule.
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#59Valnor50Posted 2/10/2013 11:41:34 AM
Winternova posted...
Solis posted...
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Fayceless posted...
The "ethics" argument against used games is hilarious!


How so? It's essentially the same concept as the ethics argument against piracy, and that obviously isn't universally condoned.


Used games are perfectly legal. Piracy is illegal. The law is the codification of the ethics of society. It's ridiculous to conflate a legal activity with an illegal activity, especially one that can result in felony charges.

Laws =/= ethics.


It's as close to an objective ethical standard as you will get. If you rule out the law as an ethical standard, then everything is subjective and each individual person can define what is ethical and what is not.


That's exactly what people should be doing, trying to figure out what is ethical and actually discussing it with others to integrate other views into their perspective. Law should not be held as a high authority on ethics. People need to think for themselves and work together, not do what they're told.