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What's up with all the niche JRPG titles that have been coming out?

#81PHEEliNUXPosted 3/8/2013 3:28:22 AM
Yes, They are
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#82SpideyknightPosted 3/8/2013 6:28:29 AM
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#83ScreamingMidgetPosted 3/8/2013 6:34:26 AM
The niche devs are the only ones still releasing games every few years.
#84deprofundis442Posted 3/8/2013 8:22:14 AM
Phophenomenon posted...
RETURN TO SENDER AND GIVE US TALES OF XILLIA, VESPERIA, & XILLIA 2.


Trash talk a handful of decent RPGs.
Ask for possibly the most boring drivel in its place.
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#85saber262Posted 3/8/2013 2:28:40 PM
hijokaiden posted...
Fayt23 posted...
hijokaiden posted...
saber262 posted...
The genre is niche to begin with.


Hardly as it wasnt that way before, it started to become niche this gen for a variety of factors that I listed earlier.


Yes it has. JRPGs have always been a niche genre.


Stopped reading, I suggest you review your history.


Besides FF, and KH what RPG's are considered blockbusters from the past decade? Sure, we got great titles on the ps2 like Xenosaga, Dark Cloud, .Hack, Valkyrie Profile 2, rouge galaxy, etc, but most people probably have never even heard of them. Developers don't have the luxury this gen to spend resources in making those quality games when they are only projected to sell 500k-1mil. Consider ourselves fortunate that we are still getting Tales as that studio isn't doing well financially.
#86EventualDeclinePosted 3/9/2013 2:09:08 AM
Fayt23 posted...
Yes it has. JRPGs have always been a niche genre. Unless you are talking about Japan? Anime troupes, the fanservice etc. Always has been there. The fans of the genre just speak so loud and in volumes that you think its really mainstream when its clearly not. If you look at how many JRPGs churn out for the handhelds and stuff in Japan and see how we barely even get the majority of what they get in US and other territories just proves the genre is niche here. It just seems people are finally noticing this now, since the majority of JRPGs have flocked to handhelds and WRPGs have started to become the next best thing since slice bread for console owners now.

Looking at your factors in the thread. You mean the fanservice and that's the only thing people will buy it for? I'm sorry dude but fanservice has been in RPGs even in Tales of for a long time. To say that this gen is the start of it all or even people only play the games just for the fanservice is just ludicrous. Someone already said it, but I doubt people play 20-80 hour games for only one thing.

If we are going by for the what is niche then for US pretty much any JRPG that isn't Final Fantasy is niche, since fans know brand recognition and that is Final Fantasy. If we are going by sales, then once again Final Fantasy reigns king again in US. If you are trying to argue that games that have bigger budgets, then I'm not seeing how you can argue Mana Khemia is better, then the NISA publish games now?

If we even go back to how Japan is now with JRPGs they have changed to niche also. Tales of, Shin Megami Tensei used to be one of the best selling RPGs in Japan and now we got Pokemon up there and Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy. The majority of JRPGs that sell well just are getting lower sales now. Now it seems games like animal crossing and mobile stuff is the rage in Japan.


I think you're a bit confused here buddy, and have no clue what you're talking about. First and foremost, you start off by disagreeing that JRPG's have become niche this generation, claiming that they were always niche. Then at the end of your post you say that JRPG's in Japan have recently changed to become niche. Do you realize that you contradicted the entire point of your post? Is there something seriously wrong with you or what? You then mention that JRPG's get lower sales now than before. Further contradicting the entire point of why you responded to that guy. *Face palm*.

Look, no one said that JRPG's have not had niche games in the past. What do you think you're arguing, exactly? Do you think that others think that every single JRPG ever released has been a top selling title? What the hell is wrong with you? The point is not that niche JRPG's have recently appeared, the point is that the genre as a whole has recently become almost entirely niche, for the first time since the mid 90's or so. Do you get it? Do you speak English?

Let's look at some facts:

Final Fantasy 7: 10 million copies sold worldwide (Best selling JRPG of all time).

Final Fantasy 8: 8 million copies sold

Final Fantasy 10: 8 million copies sold

Final Fantasy 13: 6 million copies sold (only top selling JRPG this gen probably).

Kingdom Hearts: 5 million copies sold

Dragon Quest 8: 4 million copies sold

Seeing a pattern here? The pattern is that in the past JRPG's were not a niche GENRE, and multiple games sold far more than the most successful JRPG this gen, FF13. And that game is considered a failure anyway since it can't even match PS1 sales, and was a highly divisive game, whether you like it or not. So JRPG's only became niche THIS gen. Get it genius?
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#87AtalalamaPosted 3/10/2013 1:28:06 PM
Phophenomenon posted...
I don't understand why they still have the Atelier series when they aren't even all that. Especially the monstrosity that just came out, Ni no Kuni. Overall, not a bad game but felt like a niche title.


Because good games. Also, all that.