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Apparently, I'm a reactiony who wants to go back to PS1 Tomb Raider...

#51CammyApplePosted 3/23/2013 6:48:15 PM
kingofall214 posted...
ITT People trying to justify everything that is wrong with games today.

"Puzzles don't fit into the story so scrap them"
"Puzzles can stop the flow of the story so scrap them"

Games are supposed to be about gameplay 1st and story 2nd and graphics 3rd. The second you decide to scrap a gameplay element because it doesn't work with story or graphics you fail at making a game.

If you want realism pick up a movie. You can't get realer than that. You want a good story pick up a book.

And god damn it if I want to play a game I want gameplay.


And then all at once people realized ICO was just one big escort mission.
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#52Retroxgamer0Posted 3/23/2013 6:51:07 PM
Zora_Prince posted...
...because I'm complaining and upset that the new one doesn't have any real puzzles or serious platforming...

Apparently, I'm a reactionary for being upset it doesn't have the things that made Tomb Raider Tomb Raider...


its FULL of platforming!
#53kingofall214Posted 3/23/2013 7:08:36 PM
CammyApple posted...
kingofall214 posted...
ITT People trying to justify everything that is wrong with games today.

"Puzzles don't fit into the story so scrap them"
"Puzzles can stop the flow of the story so scrap them"

Games are supposed to be about gameplay 1st and story 2nd and graphics 3rd. The second you decide to scrap a gameplay element because it doesn't work with story or graphics you fail at making a game.

If you want realism pick up a movie. You can't get realer than that. You want a good story pick up a book.

And god damn it if I want to play a game I want gameplay.


And then all at once people realized ICO was just one big escort mission.


I had no idea what ICO is so I googled it. Wikipedia makes it sound like it was the 1st journey game. They scrapped any idea that didn't work with the story. The game scored high and sold 700,000 copies world wide.

If any of that is wrong then I apologize as I don't know what this "game" is.

If that is correct then it sounds like this game is responsible for this crap. This is the bane of video games as far as I am concerned. Iphone games are better than this garbage as at least those games focus on (albeit simple) gameplay.
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#54CammyApplePosted 3/23/2013 7:12:54 PM
kingofall214 posted...
CammyApple posted...
kingofall214 posted...
ITT People trying to justify everything that is wrong with games today.

"Puzzles don't fit into the story so scrap them"
"Puzzles can stop the flow of the story so scrap them"

Games are supposed to be about gameplay 1st and story 2nd and graphics 3rd. The second you decide to scrap a gameplay element because it doesn't work with story or graphics you fail at making a game.

If you want realism pick up a movie. You can't get realer than that. You want a good story pick up a book.

And god damn it if I want to play a game I want gameplay.


And then all at once people realized ICO was just one big escort mission.


I had no idea what ICO is so I googled it. Wikipedia makes it sound like it was the 1st journey game. They scrapped any idea that didn't work with the story. The game scored high and sold 700,000 copies world wide.

If any of that is wrong then I apologize as I don't know what this "game" is.

If that is correct then it sounds like this game is responsible for this crap. This is the bane of video games as far as I am concerned. Iphone games are better than this garbage as at least those games focus on (albeit simple) gameplay.


ICO is always held in high regard but at it's core it's simply one long escort mission. It's a fine game mind you. My point was that people hate escort missions but love ICO.

hell the game's title pretty much translates to "Let's Go" or "Follow me".
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#55SieKensouPosted 3/23/2013 7:22:23 PM
CammyApple posted...
Zora_Prince posted...
...because I'm complaining and upset that the new one doesn't have any real puzzles or serious platforming...

Apparently, I'm a reactionary for being upset it doesn't have the things that made Tomb Raider Tomb Raider...




"Puzzles" in modern action games are dead. You may have one here or there but that's it. They aren't needed. They don't fit the story most often.


go check out the Lufia remake on the ds.
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#56Stanger5150Posted 3/24/2013 7:22:25 AM
SieKensou posted...
CammyApple posted...
Zora_Prince posted...
...because I'm complaining and upset that the new one doesn't have any real puzzles or serious platforming...

Apparently, I'm a reactionary for being upset it doesn't have the things that made Tomb Raider Tomb Raider...




"Puzzles" in modern action games are dead. You may have one here or there but that's it. They aren't needed. They don't fit the story most often.


go check out the Lufia remake on the ds.


Lufia is not an action game.
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#57Impaired MedicPosted 3/24/2013 7:26:54 AM
I was almost ready to respond seriously until I saw who the TC was.
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