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BioWare co-founder can understand why fans were disappointed with ME3's ending

#1Paragon-57Posted 5/2/2013 9:37:17 AM
In saying that, so what does former BioWare co-founder Dr. Greg Zeschuk think of all the ruckus? Surprisingly, he says (via IGN) he ďcan understand completelyĒ why fans were disappointed.

"The passion and level of engagement was so high that it makes it very hard to solve every scenario you wanted to solve at the end of itÖI always still sincerely think itís because [the fans] really really care about what we make. Itís not random. Itís like, they may be disappointed when they canít get the choice they want because theyíre so intimate with their story or their character or their game. If itís not just the way they want it, itís not right. So itís a very hard thing to reconcile, but the reality is, I can understand completely where it can come from."

http://pixelenemy.com/bioware-co-founder-can-understand-completely-why-fans-were-disappointed-with-mass-effect-3s-ending/
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#2PsychoDrama1Posted 5/2/2013 9:44:10 AM
Seems like a little backhanded blame on the fans. "The fans are TOO passionate about the game that we couldn't satisfy everyone". To an extent this is true. However, three different color endings with barely anything changed between them was a massive let down. Even more so when they literally said we wouldn't get three stock endings..But the extended endings were much better and they did offer them for free. I just wish they would admit they messed up the ending instead of dancing around it.
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#3hockeybub89Posted 5/2/2013 9:52:34 AM
To be honest, I expected samey endings from the day I first played ME1. To me, at least, it was clear Mass Effect was going to be about the journey, not the destination. It's an easier way to do the whole "your choices affect things" idea. It's impractical if 3000 choices make your ending go 9000 different directions. They'd still be developing ME2 if the games were that ridiculous. The ME3 ending wasn't unsatisfying because it didn't give your choices closure. Every choice you made affected something in the series. The ending was unsatisfying because it sucked in comparison to the writing of the rest of the series.
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#4king_maddenPosted 5/2/2013 9:55:48 AM
PsychoDrama1 posted...
Seems like a little backhanded blame on the fans. "The fans are TOO passionate about the game that we couldn't satisfy everyone". To an extent this is true. However, three different color endings with barely anything changed between them was a massive let down. Even more so when they literally said we wouldn't get three stock endings..But the extended endings were much better and they did offer them for free. I just wish they would admit they messed up the ending instead of dancing around it.


lol are you serious? a "backhanded blame" on the fans? the guy is just saying he understands the fans, and thats the real reason so many people were so upset, because they really cared for the game so they wanted things a certain way, there is nothing incorrect about that.

they ended it the way they wanted to end THEIR game, no need to apologize. they wanted to do something with the story and people didnt take it like they thought they would.
#5Godly_GoofPosted 5/2/2013 9:55:51 AM
I'd rather have a less crappy ending instead of an "understanding". And make one that doesn't contradict the writing in the first game when they said "nothing could destroy the relay" and then they just so happen to be able to at the last minute for no real reason ...
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#6Dirk_McHardpeckPosted 5/2/2013 9:58:38 AM
Yeah the ending was stupid. I couldn't believe that it was all a dream and that Sheppard wakes up in bed next to Suzanne Pleshette.
#7SinfullyvannilaPosted 5/2/2013 10:04:34 AM(edited)
Godly_Goof posted...
I'd rather have a less crappy ending instead of an "understanding". And make one that doesn't contradict the writing in the first game when they said "nothing could destroy the relay" and then they just so happen to be able to at the last minute for no real reason ...


That's a stupid complaint. Also, not a contradiction.
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#8CronoDynePosted 5/2/2013 12:28:12 PM(edited)
And the point flies way over Zeschuk's head. The problem wasn't what the individual person wanted. It's what BioWare promised and what people expected. I won't bother listing off everything, since its been done to death, so just watch AJ's video on it:



ME3 ENDING SPOILERS IN THE VIDEO BELOW




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0Cf864P7E



So all fans got were broken promises, wild inconsistencies to the plot, plot holes, and a revelation that comes out of nowhere and is explained with nothing. Extended Cut did solve some of theses issues, but this about the initial backlash months before EC.
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#9deathsaber79Posted 5/2/2013 1:37:21 PM(edited)
I wish someone at Bioware would just tell the truth- they completely screwed the pooch with the ending.

They introduced weird metaphysical mystical crap right at the end in a series that up to the end was pure sci fi goodness, and full of choice.

Worse yet, ME3 already came with a system that would have been perfect for interpreting a variety of endings that wouldn't have stank and would have left out the starchild & the stupid crucible/catalyst.

Depending on races made loyal to the cause, and the galactic readyness score you acquired in game- this score should have determined how the final battle concluded- either the galaxy's vicory over the reapers, the galaxies destruction, and gray areas in between (vicory with extensive and devasting losses).

Instead they basically abandoned and triviolized the galactic readiness thing almost entirely, all of the choices you made over three games, your choice of love interest, and just let you pick from three canned deus ex machima endings that were all horrible and broke completely from the spirit of the games that game before.
#10king_maddenPosted 5/2/2013 6:19:06 PM
Godly_Goof posted...
I'd rather have a less crappy ending instead of an "understanding". And make one that doesn't contradict the writing in the first game when they said "nothing could destroy the relay" and then they just so happen to be able to at the last minute for no real reason ...



well its kind of late to get a less crappy ending now, so best you're gonna get is an "understanding".