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Name all the FPS where you can see your body & show you can pick up things

#1Devilman_AmonPosted 5/2/2013 12:43:55 PM(edited)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FirstPersonGhost

I was playing Deus Ex HR & FC3 Blood Dragon earlier and it was quite annoying where you can back up against a wall and your entire body is not shown in first person even when you look down (unless you take cover and it goes to 3rd), thus confirming you are just a floating camera.

Also kinda dumb when you go to pick up things in Deus Ex or say Fallout or Amnesia, and stuff just floats instead of showing you pick it up with your hands
It's pretty annoying and just an example of lazy design.the gameplay requires you to see what your limbs are doing at all times.

People say first person is for immersion, but in fact, itís when thereís no legs and/or hands interacting with the environment (doors opening by themselves) that I think the immersion is broken. Because then youíre reminded that your character doesnít even have a physical presence, but is just a camera floating around a 3D world.

Breakdown (XBox. also everything you pick up they show with your hands)
Riddick
Battlefield 3
Mirror's Edge
Dead Rising
Crysis series
Duke Nukem Forever
Killzone 3
Metal of Honor
Bulletstorm
Jericho
F.E.A.R. series
Left4Dead (PC only)
Turok
Condemned series
Shell Shock
Resistance 3
Call of Juarez series
Halo series
CoD MW 3/Blops (but does this do it in cut scenes only?)

more here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpxh_gEEioM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26hhjTEhDGU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AmEHSQNs5M

However,most of these games have really bad mechanics when your legs are moving, especially when strafing. You either look like your sliding unnaturally as you move, or you look like you're skittering around like a bug on a hot griddle.

It just feels like the legs are not a part of the rest of the body. They seem out of place as if they're dancing to a different tune.

Problem is that usually when you see your legs you realize how dumb looking your animation actually is. It's the Oblivion thing where you can move diagonally but it looks like your legs are running straight ahead.

But at the same time, not showing them makes you feel like you are truly a floating gun.

If you look down and see your legs you should probably be able to see parts of your chest as well, which not too many games do.

Well maybe this one (Jurassic Park: Trespasser):

http://intelligentgames.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/trespasser-ti ts.jpg

So which one does it the best? I'm thinking it's between Mirror's Edge and Breakdown.

And do you think the mechanics will improve on the PS4 or will they still continue to use bad design? Also get rid of the floaty or "I'm in a wheelchair" feeling when you walk or look around too.
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#2Paragon-57Posted 5/2/2013 12:42:37 PM
The FEAR games you can add.
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#3Devilman_Amon(Topic Creator)Posted 5/2/2013 12:44:15 PM
h yeah forgot them thanks
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#4lambchipsPosted 5/2/2013 12:47:35 PM
seeing that you like cartoon games, i dont know how the hell you could have missed killer 7 (which is better than all those games you listed)
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#5Devilman_Amon(Topic Creator)Posted 5/2/2013 12:49:07 PM
lambchips posted...
seeing that you like cartoon games, i dont know how the hell you could have missed killer 7 (which is better than all those games you listed)


I never got to play that one. Wasn't it pretty much on rails though?
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#6Paragon-57Posted 5/2/2013 12:53:59 PM
America's Army 3
The Darkness
Far Cry 2 and 3
Operation Flashpoint
Hitman
Metroid Prime 3
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic (Not an FPS per say, though)

Just to add some. On the topic, though, I love it when developers make it so you are able to see your legs.
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#7Ghetto_ninjaPosted 5/2/2013 12:59:06 PM
I think dead island shows you pick up stuff unless it's ammo or something in a container.
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#8Superfly Jo JoPosted 5/2/2013 1:00:41 PM
Pretty sure you can add the Crysis series to the list
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#9agrissaPosted 5/2/2013 1:08:00 PM
These are still PAAGGs in my mind.
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#10Devilman_Amon(Topic Creator)Posted 5/2/2013 1:17:37 PM
Superfly Jo Jo posted...
Pretty sure you can add the Crysis series to the list


It is on the list
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