The way you described Auron is far from the truth. It's not simplifying, but it's completely wrong. He was an amazing guardian who fulfilled his duty. He's not like Rikku in the sense that he is actively trying to find a way (vague so there's no spoilers) but he just follows Yuna's path and, in the end, agrees with it because of Bevelle and Yunalesca.
Koudelka, Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land, Kingdom of Paradise, Vagrant Story, Front Mission 5, Okage, Elminage series, Eternal Ring, Shadow Tower: Abyss, Kings Field series, Gladiator: Road to Freedom, Gladiator VS, Lunatic Dawn Tempest, Nobunaga's Ambition Online, Might and Magic: Day of the Destroyer, Graffiti Kingdom. Shadow Hearts, Lost Odyssey, The Last Story, Tir Na Nog: Yuukyuu no Jin Tsugunai: Atonement, Eternal Quest, Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria, Wizardry Gaiden: Sentou no Kangoku - Prisoners of the Battles
As long as they dont make games like dark souls and monster hunter, I ll be happy.
What what what?!?!?
Those are easily two of the best games ever made. Of any genre. Why would you not want them to be models for future games?
Weak gameplay, poorly written lore, great monster designs but ugly characters/environments. One of the worst action RPGs I've ever played.
You are the reason why we can't have nice things.
Hey now, calm down ya'll. There is such a thing as differing opinions. I tried Dark Souls, stuck with it for 5 hours, and hated every second of it. That doesn't mean it's not a good, well-designed game. I would probably not put it in the "best games ever made" category, but I can definitely understand why some people would like it.
Totally agree with this guy about both games. I couldn't get into monster hunter, yet loved a similar game in Phantasy Star Online (dreamcast and gamecube), and I couldn't get into Dark Souls either (despite every stereotype about the game making it sound like my dream game).
Dude, play Last Story and Pandora's Tower. theses are some solid JRPGs that don't really fall in with the generic or childish parts of JRPGs, not saying they aren't a bit generic here and there, just that they stand out more. Also play Yakuza. no really, Yakuza is kind of a JRPG, and it's a bloody brilliant, dramatic, and story driven series. and don't forget the way of the samurai games.
^^ Going to have to agree. It's not that good and is NOT the best games for either genre. Also, I can't believe you would mention MH and Dark Souls as rpg games. They are complete garbage as those (although better than most WRPGs....) although they are good on their own or as a different genre (maybe action-adventure?).
Anyways, there are actually quite a few of mature jrpgs. In fact, even the ones that look all cute sometimes have really good mature topics to deal with so that works.
For the most part, you have to look on the handhelds these days if you want a good mature JRPG. Radiant Historia, Fire Emblem: Awakening, Trails in the Sky, Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together, and weirder, more niche stuff like Crimson Shroud. It's out there, but modern gaming culture has decreed that we are no longer permitted to like anything from Japan, and I can only assume the guys over at Xseed or Atlus don't want to make zero money instead of a small amount, so they tend to focus on importing JRPGs to systems the bros don't care about, i.e. portables.
You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
Very nice list Devilmon Amon. I would have bought those games if they ever came out in English. Growlanser is a good mature JRPG. Too bad Atlus gutted Wayfarer of time of voice acting/combat voices/monster noises though. Persona, although all of those have high school age kids as protagonists. Do some of you guys consider a JRPG as not "Mature" if the protagonist is under 16, 21, etc? Personally I think most of the modern JRPGs are just terrible. Too much focus on graphics and too little on gameplay/mini-games/story. It's like the quest for good graphics sucked the quality out of everything else. Personally I can't stomach the cutesy, SD-chibi rpgs and MMORPGs the East keeps churning out. The character design is something I can't get into.