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GTAV got me wondering what is the most sexist game on PS3.

#101SigmaHacielPosted 7/18/2013 1:00:07 PM
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#102fusespliffPosted 7/18/2013 1:12:22 PM
Ghost_Beast posted...
SigmaHaciel posted...
CrimsonGear80 posted...
There's nothing wrong with wanting equality

He doesn't know what he is talking about. He is just typing words that will get him the most attention.

just FYI.


This.

If we want to open that gate, it means we'll need -

One straight white male
One straight black male
One mexican
One russian
One indian
One Indian
One German
etc etc etc. One homosexual somewhere.
Same for females.

HA!

I was already quoting you in another topic and pwning your illogical arguments.

the world is comprised of 50% male and 50% female

there are many more females than there are of any race in the world. it wouldn't make any sense to emphasize another race over females. Plus GTAIV already did the Russian thing with that awful character Nico. They've already had several black protags, but I doubt they've had a hispanic pro tag. There's a trillion times more females in the world than indians! (talking about native americans, btw). I wouldn't be against an Indian character. How about an Indian female?


I already did not think highly of you. Now I think even less of you.

Then for you to quote that troll, I'm just not sure how it would be possible to go any further.


"I'm anti racist and discrimination, yet use a term that an entire group of people hate being called"
Might as well refer to black people as n******** while you're at it.
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#103RafedxPosted 7/18/2013 1:15:18 PM
Ghost_Beast posted...
SigmaHaciel posted...
Why do people who don't know the core of the term use it like they DO in fact know?

Not having a female in your playable lead =/= sexist.

Having violence against women =/= sexist if violence is occurring to EVERYONE.

Having like one female out of every one hundred playable characters in video games is indeed sexist.


1 female
100 males

fusespliff posted...
If you are so adamant against discrimination, then explain why you discriminate against every single poster on this board who likes things you don't like?
I already have this on hand btw.....

What category would people with bad taste fit into?


Dude, I get your cause and all but your skewing what the word sexist means. Not having a female lead is not sexist, its just the way it is. Having females in the game for eye candy is sexist, look at the new Metro game. It has what 1 female character for the story and her character is terrible and she gets naked at some point.

Metroid other M, Duke Forever, Far Cry 3, all of those games portray women badly and in most of those cases the games come across as sexist.

You cannot force developers to throw in women for the sake of them being there, the most you can hope for is that if they have female characters that they do them properly and with respect. No gender or race should ever be alienated from a video game, and in the right context you can do a lot while still keeping your integrity as a game developer.

The producer fiasco with Remember Me was sexist on the producers parts (not capcom the ones that didn't do it because she was a women.). Naughty Dog having to fight to keep Ellie on the cover, The team that made Bioshock folding and letting them remove Elizabeth from the cover, etc. Those are sexist things in the industry. Not having more female leads is NOT sexist. I won't get into this as its another topic but if possible you would hope the developer tend to stay away from the basic female tropes like a rape back story, or needing to be saved over and over again. (or man ones like having to lose a women to build your character.)

Like I said, I understand your cause and your rage for this but you have to be realistic and point out the actual sexist things in the industry, you cannot just pick and choose what you think is sexist as it only hurts your cause, and with that you are no better then any of the baby MRA's out in the world, and I know you don't want to be like that just for the opposite side.
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#104boring_namePosted 7/18/2013 1:16:47 PM
fusespliff posted...
Ghost_Beast posted...
SigmaHaciel posted...
CrimsonGear80 posted...
There's nothing wrong with wanting equality

He doesn't know what he is talking about. He is just typing words that will get him the most attention.

just FYI.


This.

If we want to open that gate, it means we'll need -

One straight white male
One straight black male
One mexican
One russian
One indian
One Indian
One German
etc etc etc. One homosexual somewhere.
Same for females.

HA!

I was already quoting you in another topic and pwning your illogical arguments.

the world is comprised of 50% male and 50% female

there are many more females than there are of any race in the world. it wouldn't make any sense to emphasize another race over females. Plus GTAIV already did the Russian thing with that awful character Nico. They've already had several black protags, but I doubt they've had a hispanic pro tag. There's a trillion times more females in the world than indians! (talking about native americans, btw). I wouldn't be against an Indian character. How about an Indian female?


I already did not think highly of you. Now I think even less of you.

Then for you to quote that troll, I'm just not sure how it would be possible to go any further.


"I'm anti racist and discrimination, yet use a term that an entire group of people hate being called"
Might as well refer to black people as n******** while you're at it.


I'm no defender of Ghost_Beast but that comparison is ridiculous. Indian in reference to Native Americans is a misnomer not a hate word.
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#105fusespliffPosted 7/18/2013 1:18:15 PM
boring_name posted...
fusespliff posted...
Ghost_Beast posted...
SigmaHaciel posted...
CrimsonGear80 posted...
There's nothing wrong with wanting equality

He doesn't know what he is talking about. He is just typing words that will get him the most attention.

just FYI.


This.

If we want to open that gate, it means we'll need -

One straight white male
One straight black male
One mexican
One russian
One indian
One Indian
One German
etc etc etc. One homosexual somewhere.
Same for females.

HA!

I was already quoting you in another topic and pwning your illogical arguments.

the world is comprised of 50% male and 50% female

there are many more females than there are of any race in the world. it wouldn't make any sense to emphasize another race over females. Plus GTAIV already did the Russian thing with that awful character Nico. They've already had several black protags, but I doubt they've had a hispanic pro tag. There's a trillion times more females in the world than indians! (talking about native americans, btw). I wouldn't be against an Indian character. How about an Indian female?


I already did not think highly of you. Now I think even less of you.

Then for you to quote that troll, I'm just not sure how it would be possible to go any further.


"I'm anti racist and discrimination, yet use a term that an entire group of people hate being called"
Might as well refer to black people as n******** while you're at it.


I'm no defender of Ghost_Beast but that comparison is ridiculous. Indian in reference to Native Americans is a misnomer not a hate word.


It is still a word that an entire culture finds offensive. Maybe not as strongly as that word, but offensive nonetheless.
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#106Ghost_Beast(Topic Creator)Posted 7/18/2013 1:37:48 PM
fusespliff posted...
It is still a word that an entire culture finds offensive. Maybe not as strongly as that word, but offensive nonetheless.

I was responding to someone else who used the word.

You are talking to someone who has worked at a Native American casino for years and years.

I have been to 3 different countries and I think Japanese culture is the best.

There is not a racist bone in my body and I am not a hate mongerer who gets all huffy at the thought of a female in a video game.



Fact is that GTA lacks any females with depth, they're all faceless, and it portrays females as hookers. That is very misogynistic.



If you all do some google searches, you can see that I'm not the first to say this. And if you read some of the articles, you can see all the bigoted hateful comments toward females. Surprises me that so many people are so hateful and mean spirited.

I even saw one of the comments say "women can't shoot for **** ". Would be funny though for a female marksman to pwn him tho.

http://www.giantbomb.com/grand-theft-auto-v/3030-36765/forums/will-we-ever-see-a-female-lead-in-a-gta-game-526339/

you can see that comment here, and many other sexist comments. also, not happy at all to see so many hate mongerers on gamefaqs.
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#107brolynickPosted 7/18/2013 1:53:46 PM
The game is about a group of friends/associates performing bank heists together. One is obviously supposed to be the getaway driver, and we all know women can't drive so that's 1 male right there. The other 2 have to actually rob the bank, and in order to do that they have to be out of the kitchen. So I don't think your plan for having a female lead would work.
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#108boring_namePosted 7/18/2013 1:53:49 PM
Ghost_Beast posted...
fusespliff posted...
It is still a word that an entire culture finds offensive. Maybe not as strongly as that word, but offensive nonetheless.

I was responding to someone else who used the word.

You are talking to someone who has worked at a Native American casino for years and years.

I have been to 3 different countries and I think Japanese culture is the best.

There is not a racist bone in my body and I am not a hate mongerer who gets all huffy at the thought of a female in a video game.



Fact is that GTA lacks any females with depth, they're all faceless, and it portrays females as hookers. That is very misogynistic.



If you all do some google searches, you can see that I'm not the first to say this. And if you read some of the articles, you can see all the bigoted hateful comments toward females. Surprises me that so many people are so hateful and mean spirited.

I even saw one of the comments say "women can't shoot for **** ". Would be funny though for a female marksman to pwn him tho.

http://www.giantbomb.com/grand-theft-auto-v/3030-36765/forums/will-we-ever-see-a-female-lead-in-a-gta-game-526339/

you can see that comment here, and many other sexist comments. also, not happy at all to see so many hate mongerers on gamefaqs.


I find this comment very odd. For one it seems like a statement about ethnic superiority, which you just said you were so adamantly against. Second the Japanese are known to have severe problems with sexism.
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#109Mad_CauliflowerPosted 7/18/2013 2:12:25 PM
I think the bullet point is that he doesn't care about equality in games, he cares that a popular game doesn't have it.


And Greer, if you cared about diversity in games, you wouldn't be shedding a world worth of tears of Final Fantasy XIII.

With one breath you say "don't change, keep it the way it's always been" and with your next breath you say "hey, time for diversity"
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#110ManuKesnaPosted 7/18/2013 2:15:02 PM
boring_name posted...
Ghost_Beast posted...
fusespliff posted...
It is still a word that an entire culture finds offensive. Maybe not as strongly as that word, but offensive nonetheless.

I was responding to someone else who used the word.

You are talking to someone who has worked at a Native American casino for years and years.

I have been to 3 different countries and I think Japanese culture is the best.

There is not a racist bone in my body and I am not a hate mongerer who gets all huffy at the thought of a female in a video game.



Fact is that GTA lacks any females with depth, they're all faceless, and it portrays females as hookers. That is very misogynistic.



If you all do some google searches, you can see that I'm not the first to say this. And if you read some of the articles, you can see all the bigoted hateful comments toward females. Surprises me that so many people are so hateful and mean spirited.

I even saw one of the comments say "women can't shoot for **** ". Would be funny though for a female marksman to pwn him tho.

http://www.giantbomb.com/grand-theft-auto-v/3030-36765/forums/will-we-ever-see-a-female-lead-in-a-gta-game-526339/

you can see that comment here, and many other sexist comments. also, not happy at all to see so many hate mongerers on gamefaqs.


I find this comment very odd. For one it seems like a statement about ethnic superiority, which you just said you were so adamantly against. Second the Japanese are known to have severe problems with sexism.


he is greer, dont expect logic from him
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