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Why do some people hate Anime, games with Anime or people that watch Anime?

#31xXSkipBaylessXxPosted 4/4/2014 1:41:36 PM
majin nemesis posted...
EvilSakurai posted...
Because anime is a combination of some of the worst things in fiction.

Generic artstyle? Check.
Terrible writing? 90% of the time, that's a big yes.
Cut and paste characters? Yep. Even in the good stuff.
An abundance of cliches? You know it.
Oversexualization to the point that it makes normal people feel uncomfortable? Yes, Yes, and Yes.

On top of that, there's this obsession with making the main characters into little girls, which combined with sexualized content, ends up being really disturbing for reasonable people.


or not


That's just being in denial.

The reason Anime sucks is simpler:
It lacks balls.

It wasn't always like this. There was once a day when Anime was about kicking ass. Before that, it was just a thing for kids. Now a days, it's about whiny teenagers, little girls, badly written romances, and 2d porn for neckbeards.

If all Anime were like DBZ and FOTNS, Anime would be good.
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#32majin nemesisPosted 4/4/2014 1:43:40 PM
DavidWHN posted...
majin nemesis posted...
EvilSakurai posted...
Because anime is a combination of some of the worst things in fiction.

Generic artstyle? Check.
Terrible writing? 90% of the time, that's a big yes.
Cut and paste characters? Yep. Even in the good stuff.
An abundance of cliches? You know it.
Oversexualization to the point that it makes normal people feel uncomfortable? Yes, Yes, and Yes.

On top of that, there's this obsession with making the main characters into little girls, which combined with sexualized content, ends up being really disturbing for reasonable people.


or not


Or not what? He is right about some things, cliches and oversexualization.


not really and everything has cliches these days just look at hollywood movies and most games also what oversexualization? i think you guys are just seeing sex were there isn't any because you guys have weird ideas about young girls
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#33majin nemesisPosted 4/4/2014 1:46:06 PM
xXSkipBaylessXx posted...

That's just being in denial.

The reason Anime sucks is simpler:
It lacks balls.

It wasn't always like this. There was once a day when Anime was about kicking ass. Before that, it was just a thing for kids. Now a days, it's about whiny teenagers, little girls, badly written romances, and 2d porn for neckbeards.

If all Anime were like DBZ and FOTNS, Anime would be good.


so if it's always the same people complain that's cliche if it changes people complain that it's not good make up you mind
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#34DavidWHNPosted 4/4/2014 1:46:42 PM
GhostSynthetic posted...
After re-reading the posts in this thread, I think a lot has to do with cultural values, at least in regard to the whole sex appeal thing in anime. Westerners are more tolerant of violence and less so of overt sexuality. While Japanese values I think are the reverse.


It's got nothing to do with culture, how is oversexualising a kid ever a good thing or even necessary or realistic. What are you basing the values of japan on anyway, I've been to Japan and don't see kids dressed up or acting how they are portrayed in some anime and games. A lot of japanese people would say your dumb if you think you understand them because you've played JRPG's or watched anime. Not that I'm blaming you of that though.
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#35JustRandomStuffPosted 4/4/2014 1:46:44 PM
GhostSynthetic posted...
After re-reading the posts in this thread, I think a lot has to do with cultural values, at least in regard to the whole sex appeal thing in anime. Westerners are more tolerant of violence and less so of overt sexuality. While Japanese values I think are the reverse.


It's not being intolerant of "overt sexuality", but being disturbed by "overt sexuality" that involves child-like characters.
#36GamenamebullyPosted 4/4/2014 1:47:53 PM(edited)
It's cultural values mainly why anime is pretty disliked around these parts. There are some great quality anime's out there like Madoka but there are some also bad ones. You just need to know where to look.

And despite that, I don't mind anime artstyle or fanservice in my games. I play games like Blazblue, Hyperdimension Neptunia, Valkyria Chronicles, Shin Megami Tensei, Persona, DanganRonpa, Guilty Gear, Disgaea, Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F, a few visual novels like Higurashi and Umineko, and others that have the artstyle and I enjoy them a lot.

Is that so bad? No, it ain't. It all comes down to personal preferences and cultural values.
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#37Master_BassPosted 4/4/2014 1:48:45 PM
DavidWHN posted...
Why do people keep bringing this up, who are these people that "hate" anime? Reminds me of bigfoot.

Go to CE, and you'll see lots of anime hate. There's enough that love it there too, though.
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#38DavidWHNPosted 4/4/2014 1:55:21 PM
majin nemesis posted...
not really and everything has cliches these days just look at hollywood movies and most games also what oversexualization? i think you guys are just seeing sex were there isn't any because you guys have weird ideas about young girls


Lol, go see some screen shots of hyperdemsion and mugen souls. What are you blind? I think its normal for a person to dislike such things. You know, like disliking the ideas of a Nazi.

... also, you are pretty dumb if you think not liking the idea of oversexualized kids equals liking little kids. I don't like murderers either, does that mean I would like to kill someone? Your not too bright are you?
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#39Galeforce99Posted 4/4/2014 2:03:45 PM(edited)
KyoReiseTaisen posted...
Hate anime - Cuz the 1908511 school life/"comedy" anime a season are the most god awful crime against humanity? Don't forget the "we included mechs, but really this is for the fanservice garbage" anime.

Games with anime - 90% of them use the tired generic art style that most anime use. Which NOBODY likes.

People that watch anime - They generally don't.


And you're pretending that western made garbage is any less tired and terrible ? No, it's the same with everything, everywhere.

Sturgeon's law: 90% of EVERYTHING is crap.

Hell just watch an episode of The Walking Dead and really look at just how unrealistically dimwitted everyone acts in that show. Poor writing can be found everywhere.
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#40GhostSyntheticPosted 4/4/2014 2:18:18 PM(edited)
DavidWHN posted...
GhostSynthetic posted...
After re-reading the posts in this thread, I think a lot has to do with cultural values, at least in regard to the whole sex appeal thing in anime. Westerners are more tolerant of violence and less so of overt sexuality. While Japanese values I think are the reverse.


It's got nothing to do with culture, how is oversexualising a kid ever a good thing or even necessary or realistic. What are you basing the values of japan on anyway, I've been to Japan and don't see kids dressed up or acting how they are portrayed in some anime and games. A lot of japanese people would say your dumb if you think you understand them because you've played JRPG's or watched anime. Not that I'm blaming you of that though.


JustRandomStuff posted...
GhostSynthetic posted...
After re-reading the posts in this thread, I think a lot has to do with cultural values, at least in regard to the whole sex appeal thing in anime. Westerners are more tolerant of violence and less so of overt sexuality. While Japanese values I think are the reverse.


It's not being intolerant of "overt sexuality", but being disturbed by "overt sexuality" that involves child-like characters.


Guys, I didn't intend to suggest that it's acceptable to hypersexualize child-like characters. I apologize if that's what my post seemed to suggest. I was referring to sexuality in media generally. I didn't mean anime specifically and I didn't mean games specifically. And I certainly didn't mean "child-like characters."

In response to David specifically, I didn't mean sexualization of "kid[s]", as you put it. I meant sexuality in media generally (without regard to age). Maybe I should've specified that, since this thread concerns a narrower topic. My experience in Japan was indeed short; I didn't study there as I did in France. I certainly don't claim to be an expert in the field of comparative sociology; my backgrounds concern art history, French, and law. And, as my previous posts in this thread indicate, I rarely play JRPGs (or RPGs generally) and I rarely watch anime. And I never claimed to possess any understanding of Japanese values on the basis of anime or JRPGs. I was simply hypothesizing (hence my use of the phrase "I think" in post you quoted). You've read more information into my post than it suggests on its face. No need to insult.