Super Smash Bros. Brawl

pokedude900 posted...

I made one completely innocent joke in one topic. <_<

That's not the problem in this topic. In this topic, you felt the need to point out that items are not related to tiers/match-ups, despite him never mentioning either of those things.

You also said you know he'll only get worse at the game because he plays computers, which, while computers aren't necessarily the hardest opponents, they can help you improve by just practicing, and, if nothing else, do not make you worse.

Also, a lot of people (here or not) consider playing with items on as stupid, so he basically said "I play with items and I don't care," which is fine and didn't require any response.

Then you point out AGAIN that tiers aren't valid with items, despite him not saying anything about tiers.

You said you have no reason of showing him respect, which is understandable, but then you imply you want an apology after all of the above. I agree with the fact that what he said in the other topic was uncalled for, but in this topic, you were the only one starting anything, and you expect an apology afterwards.

You also said he was defensive, which I honestly agree with, but, once again, there's no problem with that. He already had a conflict with you, so I say he's playing it smart.

You also then have to point out your post in another topic (which was unnecessary, you could have just let what was in the other topic sit as it was) and where he called you a smart-ass. First of all, whether it was meant to be or not, it came across as a smart-ass comment, whether intended as a joke or not. Second of all, not only is this the internet, where it's hard to tell seriousness from sarcasm, and jokers from smart-asses, but this is GFAQs, where people already have a reputation for being a smart-ass. I accepted it as a joke, but you need to accept that it can come across the other way, too.

You haven't directly insulted him, but you've been instigating this whole topic, whether you realize or not. I'm honestly starting to think you just don't see it (and thus meaning it isn't intentional), but you have been.

You pointed out the fact that he said he wasn't going to be respectful or polite (after calling him a hypocrite), and you don't see how you two can coexist in those circumstances, but just earlier you said you have no intention of being polite to him.

The not understanding he was pointing out was the one in this topic (with him never saying anything about tiers and you insisting how they're unaffected) and was basically saying,"If your still stuck on the past argument, why can't you just go forward?" I agree with him in the fact that, while he didn't apologize, usually the best way to get past a disagreement is, while not necessarily ignoring that it happened, going past it and not getting stuck on it. And you still insist he needs to apologize. If you asked at the beginning, I would have agreed with you, but you've done little more than harass him this topic.

You insist he attacked you (which he did in the other topic), but in this topic, you still haven't even answered the topic, so it's obvious you only came in here to talk to him, whether to intentionally harass him or not.

While it probably would have started whether or not Ultra said anything, it wouldn't have started if you didn't have to read more into the comment than what was actually there. All he (originally) said was that he enjoyed "pwning" people with Link because they (and this was obviously not specified to anyone, so here's probably where the assuming started) think he sucks.

You then say he left out the part where "he jumped on them," but in this topic he didn't do anything until after continual provocation. Last, you point out that you made one joke in one topic. Doesn't mean it came across innocent.
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I'm sorry. But while it's not entirely his fault, you are placing way too much blame on me. The fight in this topic started with him attacking UltraCantaloupe.

And why should I let it go? He hasn't done ANYTHING to try to make up for what he said. He IS trying to pretend it never happened so he doesn't have to deal with the consequences. But not only that, he's still not treating me with respect. I try to be civil with my posts, even if they do come off as a bit provocative. He still gets defensive and takes everything I say as an insult.

And I never said I wasn't going to treat him politely. I just said that I don't know why I'm trying. <_<

Another thing I want to point out is that he kept saying that he "likes arguing". Yet he complains every time he thinks someone is trying to argue with him. I think he wants to be argued with so he can say people are attacking him. Hence his first reply to UltraCantaloupe.
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@Shyguy

You make a lot of great points. Hell, I myself said I deserved to get moderated. It was a horrible day, not only here but in real life (not pokedudes fault, just the WRONG day to start in on me, joking or not) maybe I should have made that clear that day, but I was nowhere near thinking clearly. I felt/feel like an ass for making a spectacle of myself, but at the same time I stand by everything I said. I don't. Believe in empty apologies, therefore I offer no apology, because that's what it would be. Empty. I've said 25,000 times I love to debate and defend my opinion, while at the same time trying to understand, if not implement some of their opinion. But arguing is childish, and I let myself fall to that level. I should have worded my posts differently for sure, but as I said I still stand by everything I said.
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You really have no idea what flaming is, do you? I've been relatively civil with him. Far more than he deserves considering how he has and continues to treat me. I have every right to speak to him the way I have, which is still way below anything that could be considered flaming. And I'm not trying to make him angry, either. So it's not trolling.

And I did not come here just to target him. As I told Ultra earlier, I would have said the same thing even if he hadn't posted. I was already getting ready to reply to Wombat before I read Ultra's post.

I will apologize for falsely accusing him, though. While I feel he was implying it, he didn't really state it. And he was basing what he said on personal experience rather than assumptions like I initially thought.

Not that he'll ever see this since he put me on ignore. Unless you want to help me with that by quoting.

That's another reason I don't put people on ignore, by the way. You miss out on half the conversation, including apologies.
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Thank you for apologizing, and so Wombat knows:

Lord Wombat, he does apologize for falsely accusing you. And the reason I think you should apologize isn't for what you may have meant or tried to say, but the fact that you said it in a rude, offensive manner. Everyone has their bad days, but everyone has to get over it, too. If you call someone a fata**, you may still mean they're fat, but you apologize for being a d*** about it.
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