Working on the Big Show's arms then doing a Chokeslam will not win the match. In order for the full effect of the move to be used you would have had to work body more. As far as kicking out when you're Red it's pretty much match over. There are a few exceptions that I have kicked out while in Red. For the stamina thing that makes you go from Red to Orange. That's mainly to have you walk around with out selling. Like holding your head or walking with a limp every now and then. --- "Hank if you're steering then who's taking off your shirt!!!" -Dale Gribble
just the other day, i was playing Slobberknocker and after about 80 opponents. the following opponent whipped me to an exposed turnbuckle and even though i was only yellow he still pinned me with a 3-count. i was pissed.
yeah the pin system is definitely not perfect but i guess it could be worse. at least they can't pin you on red from a simple 2-damage punch.
and is it me or is it still impossible to pin with the cocky pin or that one bridge pin ground move even on red after a finisher?