Custos, are they Chokijin?

#1ssjfozzPosted 6/12/2013 2:04:50 PM
Do the Custos count as Chokijin?

Seems like if Guneden created the Chokijin as servants, and Custos seem to serve as Guneden guardians, then they should count as Chokijin.

Some of my facts may be incorrect, so don't hold me to them.
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#2Shui GorPosted 6/12/2013 3:28:21 PM
choukijin were man-made, but blessed by the gan eden. custos weren't, so no
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#3AlasterBPosted 6/12/2013 3:41:22 PM
Shui Gor posted...
choukijin were man-made


Mind providing a source? I've heard both sides of this (yes, they're manmade/no they're not) with nothing definitive, and references have been secondary with no primary source quoted.
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#4KaneBlueriverPosted 6/12/2013 4:58:46 PM
AlasterB posted...
Shui Gor posted...
choukijin were man-made


Mind providing a source? I've heard both sides of this (yes, they're manmade/no they're not) with nothing definitive, and references have been secondary with no primary source quoted.


Stage 61 Hard Route.

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At Hiryu Bridge, Shawn mentions Clifford and Eric will remain to inspect on the Cross Gate. Waiting for the Feds arrival, Yun reports Son Gan Long requesting for communication. At the monitor, Son mentions about his thrill over the "Destruction Lord" being sealed. He then mentions he wants to invite KRS to there Garden of Barrel to have a talk. He then mentions he'll temporarily open the gate for them to enter but warns only KRS can enter. Lefina then tells let Jaycob know they will now heading to the Garden of Barrel.

At the map, Lefina orders other to prepare for battle. Since no sign of the barrier being opened, Shawn asks if she also want to prepare on a H-MAPW attack. Lefina mentions it might be useless judging by Son's confidence. Meanwhile Gracies was amazed by the beauty of Earth. Shouko mentions Gracies is beautiful too and wouldn't let her go if she were a man. However, Gracies didn't get what Shouko meant by "wouldn't let her go". Mio mentions someone like Irm would want to flirt with her. Though still Gracies doesn't get it. Irm mentions he doesn't like to challenge on a battle he won't win and all others glances on Josh. Soon after a warning signal rises. Eita mentions that he catches a Heavy Gravity shock unable to avoid.

A new map appears and KRS was transported. Eita reports several demon (Youkijin) signals around the area. Tetsuya then orders to deploy.

Son appears and welcomes KRS. He then thanks KRS for re-sealing the "Destruction Lord". Ratsel mentions he used them to create time for themselves. Son doesn't deny but he mentions he still need a bit more time for preparation. He then thanks for taking care of there maiden. Brit asks if he means by Irui. Son then confirms. Ibis however doesn't believes Irui was part of Barrel. Son says it's the truth but Ibis still doesn't believe it. Son then mentions if they want to know the truth, they have two options. One was to join them and become a Hermit or two was to defeat them and head over to Garden of Barrel. Son mention he prefer to have KRS to join them to defeat the "Hyakuja" they predict will appear. Sanger however declines. Son mentions that it'll be fun and everyone will be happy. Rishu mentions that he won't join for the same reasons of his ancestors. Rishu then mentions he should know by the name of the Tougou. Son then asks if he means by Ryouma (***Choukijin Manga) or Shunma or Hyouma (***Choukijin Gaiden Manga). Son starts to get nastalgic and starts mentioning about Wenlee (*** Choukijin Manga Spoilers: Former pilot of RyuKoOh who've lost her life being drained by RyuKoOh), Feilee, Crimson & Branstein family which Ratsel response. Son then mentions about V.B. which was also part of the Branstein family which then Rai response. Son then feels touched that there ancestors are now facing him. Son then mentions that it's time for him to take there body and souls. Shu replies he doesn't want to experience death again. Son then orders to fight them and if she wins, he'll release her families soul. Seeing that Sanger and Rishu starts to realize her position. Kukuru however mentions that it's none of there business and they'll die for going against her master.
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#5KaneBlueriverPosted 6/12/2013 4:59:11 PM
After defeating Kukuru, she resist on getting defeating due to wanting to save her mother and father. Once she moves away, Shikyou Chokijin appears and ToutetsuOh Grabs onto Kukuru. Son then tells her that she's not allowed to escape although he mentions he wasn't expecting much from her but needs her to do one last job. He asks her to be eaten by ToutetsuOh so he can show KRS what happens to those who defy him. He then mentions that appreciates what she's done so he'll grant her wish and take her to where her parents are. Kukuru then realizes what he meant. Son mentions they were eaten by ToutetsuOh. Kukuru asks what was the Ice Vessel she saw at Garden of Barrel. Son replies that's a "Youh". She then cries. Masaki asks what's a "Youh". Yanlong explains it's a doll that they bury with the deads. Rishu mentions she was fooled by Son. Kukuru then wonders why she did all this. Son then explains she's here to be eaten by ToutetsuOh and mentions good bye to her. But Sanger then knocks ToutetsuOh from Kukuru. Sanger mentions he had enough of Son. Son mentions she was her enemy. Sanger replies he schemed it. Son mentions that he's kind and probably why his maiden was attracted to KRS. He then mentions there next opponent will be the ToutetsuOh and KyuukiOh. He then mentions if they get eaten by them, they can't be revived by the Hermit Project since they eat up the whole soul as well. Kukuru rages against Son. Son warns if she resist, she already knows the outcome. He warns she may lose her life by resisting them. She mentions she's the Maiden from Yomi (Death) where she belongs but she'll take her with him. Son then replies do as she pleases. Kukuru then mentions she won't thank Sanger but will now be against Barrel. Sanger replies he will believe her. Kusuha mentions she won't lose by the Shikyou Chokijin. Brit mentions they won't be able to stop the Tiger and the Dragon.

After defeating Shikyou Chokijins, Kanan and Taihou appears with reinforcements. Kanan mentions she came to take her. Kusuha replies she doesn't accept them as guardians of earth. Kanan mentions humans will not be able to defeat the Hyakuja. Brit replies that's not true since they were able to stop the "Destruction Lord". Kanan replies they got help by there master. Sanger mentions they sealed the earth along with them. Kanan replies it was the best decision to do so.
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#6KaneBlueriverPosted 6/12/2013 5:00:39 PM
Right after, Shirei Choukijin (Ouryu) appears. Everyone gazes. Kusuha asks if that's another Dragon Choukijin. Son appears and mentions Kusuha's RyuOhki is the Seiryu's RyuOhKi. His is the Ouryu RyuOhki. Yanlong explains it's likely based on the King (Ouryu) of the 4 Dragons (Seiryu, Sekiryu, Hakuryu, Kokuryu) Son then explains the ranks of the Chokijin. Shijin which Kusuha and Brit has. The Shikyou that was defeated. Also a rank called Sh!zai that "used to" exist. And Son's "Shirei" Choukijin which is the highest rank. He then mentions that his Ouryu is the one who rules all the Chokijins. Son then mentions he won't be able to show him all the 4 Shirei Chokijins. Mekibos then asks why. Son mentions that he has his reason but doesn't need to explain why. Son then shows his strength using Telekenisis powers which the TK's all sense his pressure. Son then senses Ing's TK which he thinks that it's artificial like himself but has other factors mixed unlike him. He then mentions again if they want to reconsider. Kusuha replies they're a threat to humanity. Son then mentions he knew and gives them a chance to fix or replenish or even go to the toilet if they want and laughs. Lune gets upset over his goofeness. Son then starts to explain about themselves which were the guardian of the earth in the past. He mentions long ago, there were demons and monsters which were known as Hyakuja. He then sees Alfimi and mentions one of hers. He continues to explains that ancient humans created the Chokijin & there leader "Guneden". Ing then feels a minor pain. Rio asks if he's alright which Ing replies he's fine. Shu keeps quiet. Ing then thinks he has the same dejavu like during the Cross Gate. He mentions that Guneden went to deep sleep and he took over in charge. He then mentions during he took over, several chokijins like the Shikyou and Sh!zai and there minions took side of the Hyakuja which later were called the Youkijin. He then explains they had a long run war between Barrel and Hyakuja which they called it the "Kijin Taisen". Because of that war, later in history, Chokijin were recorded as Demons that brought catastrophe including RKO. He then explains RKO later in war betrayed them and went sides on Hyakuja. JBO went seeking to hunt RKO. Son mentions JBO remains with the true justice unlike RKO who've forgotten his tasks. Brit replies it's a lie and they fought against the Einst. Son replies they're still against them. Kusuha mentions they're the guardians of humans. Son replies they were fooled and they just needed them and there strong soul and telekinesis powers. He explains the Chokijin's mission are to protect all threats from earth and they're considered the Hyakuja. Brit then replies he doesn't believe it and they've always protected the earth from threats. He then continues if Barrel were truly guardians then they would have been on there side.
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#7KaneBlueriverPosted 6/12/2013 5:01:23 PM
Taihou and Kanon then sense something. Taihou mentions he might have a point. Son then tells Taihou not to intervene. Kanan mentions it's pointless to explain to them. She then mentions they have Guneden and the Mashiafu (Irui). Kanan explains Guneden gains it's true powers from the Mashiafu. She mentions the Garden of Barrel's appearance is the proof. Everyone from KRS was shocked. Kanan mentions that they can find out the truth after they become hermits. Son then mentions to prepare for a battle like the Kijin Taisen. Kusuha and Brit both still believes in RKO & KRO. Son mentions they should believe in the God of Barrel like how humans say "those who believe will be saved". Kyosuke then replies he doesn't want Barrel to save them. Axel replies he doesn't believe in god. Rishu replies he'll end his clans connection between Barrel. Son then mentions he'll then use his full strength and they have nothing to worry if they die cause he'll continue to save the earth. Sanger then tells them to shut up and listen as he has the sword who smites Hyakuja. Son then laughs being called a Hyakuja and tells Ouryu to hand them the Gods Wrath.

After chopping down BJO, tries to heal but BJO resists. Others wonders why they aren't doing it.

After chopping more down BJO, Kanan asks if it's still resisting to heal. Taihou mentions it seems it has it's reasons. Kanan then tells to change. BJO then changes to JBO and heals.


After defeating JBO, Kanan was impressed by being pressured. She mentions this isn't over and tells to use his powers for BJO though Taihou mentions that there time has come and BJO and JBO are realizing there fate. Kanan mentions she can't believe BJO is betraying Guneden. Taihou replies that life continues to change and there fate is the same. Kanan however denies and believes they're the guardian of earth. Taihou mentions they're facing those who've defeated the "Destruction Lord" & Shikyou. Taihou believe even if Evil rises, as long as good lasts, he fine. Kanan however replies that it's there dury to guide the foolish ones and was there reason to join Guneden. Taihou replies that the maiden found a new sword for her and there duties were done. Taihou then asks Kusuha and Brit to listen him. Taiho mentions that he will now be going and they can do what they want but the path they chose will be a harsh task. Kanan asks him to stop. Taihou laughs and all will and ideals are all belong to the Ying-Yang. And poof he explodes. Seeing that, Son sighs over Taihou handing all the pressure to him. Sanger mentions he's the only one left. Son then laughs and mentions he's hyped.

After defeating Ouryu, Son was somewhat shock. He finds the gods who've gave him this fate where mischieving him for stopping his amusement. He then mentions that Guneden will do the rest and he'll allow them to go pass him. He mentions he'll open the gate for them to meet the God. He then mentions they'll be waiting for the exciting test by the gods and fight against the Hyakuja. He mentions that it's much easier to destroy than defend which they're (KRS) doing. He laughs till the end and poof, he explodes. Excellen mentions he was stubborn to admit his lost. The area shakes and Eita mention another Gravity Energy was catches and everyone returns.

At Hiryu bridge, Shawn notifies everyone return and they're located at the same location and no enemies found nearby. Lefina then orders to repair and replenish all units and right after, head to Garden of Barrel.

Stage 61 Hard Route End
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#8ssjfozz(Topic Creator)Posted 6/12/2013 5:22:47 PM
Do they explain how the ancient civilization created them? Did have great tech or were they all magically created. Or maybe inanimate statues that Guneden brought to life.
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#9KaneBlueriverPosted 6/12/2013 5:42:31 PM(edited)
ssjfozz posted...
Do they explain how the ancient civilization created them? Did have great tech or were they all magically created. Or maybe inanimate statues that Guneden brought to life.


I don't recall they ever explained in detail but they sorta gave a "flimsy" example with Youkijin. Too lazy to dig up and copy paste exactly where but while they were explaining the hermit plan (in short, a plan to reconstruct humans into hermits like Kanan and Taihou) they did mentioned those that failed becoming a hermit becomes shapeless which are used creating Youkijin.

So the best guess would be that the rest of the Chokijin were at one point or another a living source that was fused with ancient technology.
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#10Vincent_VincentPosted 6/13/2013 6:58:24 AM
It was mentioned in earlier titles that LaGias Alchemy was involved in creating RKO and Dr. Anzai (that blue haired chick scientist that hang with Robert most the time) father was researching the connection before mysteriously disappearing (which i always thought it was a hint he was spirited away to Lagias) but here we have 3 Masoukishin games, the @ Saga and all these OG games with no further mentioning of the subject which make me think they dropped this sub-plot.