Ever 17: Out of Infinity
Infinity Series Discussion Topic *mark spoilers*
Continuation of Kajitani Eizan's topic. Feel free to discuss Ever17 or anything related, closely or loosely, to the Infinity series, up to and including: -Never7/Remember11/12Riven, especially the Never7 translation project. -999: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors -Code18/Root Double -Any other VNs, similar or otherwise, are also fair game. --- Mai Waifu: Coco Yagami (Ever17 ~the out of infinity~) http://i39.tinypic.com/28k1u1g.jpg | |
Today is 1/01/2011...which reminds me of a certain day. I have a prediction that...two weeks from now on 1/11/2011, flight HAL18 will crash in the snowy mountains of Akakura... The resulting events which will spawn some questions which I am completely puzzled by >_> Even after reading http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Talk:Remember11_-_the_age_of_infinity/Spoilers ***** MAJOR SPOILERS REMEMBER 11****** 1) How/when did enomotoswitchbodies/getmemoryimplantofsatoru? 2) Thatguy? Shadow? Aretheythesameordifferent? 3) Who was the knife wielder? Who knifed the left hand? Who held down his head in the bathtub? (Methinkskeikodidallofit, but then she had other chances as well so...???) 4) Anyinfo/onsayakaandenomoto/satoru'sproject? 5) What is UP with the creepy kagome kagome segments? Somethingtodowithshadow? ***** END SPOILERS****** I removed the spaces not to vex readers but hopefully protect the over-observant. Spoiler tags often aren't enough to prevent someone from glancing at a name/term they shouldn't know yet. Anyways, I already have some ideas on the above, but I just want to see if anyone decisively figured out everything. I've seen all the endings and done a bit of simple analysis just to derive some closure from the final epilogue, and I guess it sort of makes sense in my head. Sort of. --- ^Read that, not this. | |
Don't say that...I have a plane flight on January 11th myself, and there's a part where we cross some mountains. Anyway, to answer your questions. **MAJOR REMEMBER11 SPOILERS** 1. I think it occured at the start of the game. Since you've played Ever17, you're familiar with Blick Winkel, right? Well, when we, the player, first see "Satoru", it's actually Enomoto we see. But when he looks down on the keycard, BW/the player sees the name "Satoru Yukidoh" on it. Therefore, BW/the player assumes that Enomoto is actually Satoru, and so reality changes so that Enomoto is Satoru while Satoru becomes Enomoto. That's also the reason Satoru lost his memories- since we, the player, don't know anything about Satoru other than what we learned from Kokoro's route (particularly his relationship with Lin.), that's all Satoru remembers about himself. 2. Yeah...I don't get this one either, sorry. 3. The one who held his head in the bathtub was the third personality (it was the male twin who switched with Kokoro and Satoru, while the female twin switched with Hotori and Inubushi), but because of the sleeping pills Kokoro took, Satoru was sleepy, and so the third personality was unable to kill him properly. The third personality was also the one who knifed the left hand. However, I can't remember off the bat who held the knife, but I know if you play that part again, pay close attention to the hands, and look in the CG menu (each character who wields a knife has a slightly different CG for who's holding the knife.) 4. There is, actually. In the PSP version of Remember11, a whole timeline of the Infinity series was included, and it detailed Satoru/Sayaka/Enomoto's pasts and their experiment. It hasn't been fully translated yet, however, so you'll have to wait on that. However, I don't think it answers why Satoru was going to Australia (or maybe I missed that part.). 5. Exactly. According to popular fan belief, people start singing "Kagome, Kagome" when they become aware of the prescence of Shadow/That Guy/BW (I don't know which of the three it is.) **END SPOILERS** --- Translating Never7: The End of Infinity Current script: Haruka Day 3, Part 2 | |
By the way, whipped up an experimental typo patch - now with 100 % less tsgumi and kidink. This should fix 86 typos. Other issues still remain, but they might get fixed later if this works. How to use? Just replace the script.dat in your installation folder, but make sure to take a backup of your saves and the original script.dat first! Tested it by starting a new game and going forward a day or two, and jumping to and fro with shortcut. It shouldn't blow up or anything, but due to lack of proper testing of all routes (all offsets and jump tables) it should be considered experimental for now. No guarantees, everything is your responsibility, etc. Now be a good guinea pig and download it, play the game and let me know if things start falling apart. ;) http://www.mediafire.com/?w8xlba9pzwwzlx5 | |
*R11 Spoilers again* 1. I've read this explanation...I guess it's fine. Kind of pisses me off, like Kaburaki's perma-loss. Even sadder is that he loses sight of the purpose of the project (although is that really a bad thing? I dunno...). 3. He's...holding down his own head while he's in control? See it this way...33 minutes of third person control (and the other person doing crazy stuff in the room outside), and he is drowned in the last 4-5 minutes he begins to take control? Forcing his own head into the bathtub? In the bad end it's made obvious that he's being held down against his will...if it was the third personality it would be gone and he would be free to escape. My idea right now is that he was so awake the third personality managed to get out and involve the other one and they ended up playing in the bathroom, and the last 4-5 minutes he started drowning, and Keiko just went with it upon reentry >_>. I can accept the self mutilation explanation; it was in fact my default belief after I found it was not an accident from the earthquake. *R11 Spoilers end* For the Ever17 patch, I thought those littLeMMIHstakes were kind of funny. But I could not figure out with Kidere and Kidink were supposed to be until someone mentioned Youth autoreplace >_>. --- ^Read that, not this. | |
Alright, I'll do it, just give me a while to test it. --- Translating Never7: The End of Infinity Current script: Haruka Day 5, Part 2 | |
Cool, thanks. I'll see if I can go through a route or two myself as well. Here's a small changelog: http://pastebin.ca/2036098 Naturally, the hacker is still known (I concentrated on blatant typos on this round), but Sara should no longer be littLeMMIHschievous. | |
Patch seems alright to me. I went through a bit of Kid's and Takeshi's routes (not Coco), and noticed that the corrections are there. On another note, I never noticed the massive number of typos in this game besides question marks and Kidere/Kidink/LeMMIH. I did read the game pretty fast...I guess my brain autopatched the errors for me >_> Or I was being possessed by the third eye to be reading the future completed patch that would come to exist 17 years later? >_< --- ^Read that, not this. | |
Patch seems to be working good so far for me as well. Also, in addition to typos, can you change the scene in Kid's side of the Coco Route where Kid and You first meet Sara so that Kid says Sara's name before it's mentioned? I remember in that scene that they made a big deal about Kid knowing Sara's name before it was said, but he never said her name in the translation. It was definitely a translation error, so can you deal with that? --- Translating Never7: The End of Infinity Current script: Haruka Day 5, Part 2 | |
ShadowBlackMage posted... When I noticed that, I reloaded the save 3 times, slowly checking every piece of text.......then facepalmed. The voice says "Sara", however, there's nothing in the text -_-' The R11 fan translation was better (by a lot) |