does anyone know which slot machine is the luckiest?

#1mixx814Posted 10/14/2008 11:38:03 PM
I have both casinos available.....
#2ThaiUserPosted 10/15/2008 8:41:12 AM
Don't really think there is on. One of them (I think the right most) can give the biggest prize, but it seems to me that it is much harder to win any thing from it... Don't play slot machine because the reward is the worst.
#3pimperjonesPosted 10/15/2008 2:41:28 PM

The Casino system is broken in DQ IV. There is no trick. No exploit. It's kinda like a real Casino. My suggestion is just complete the Monster Book and get the coins.

#4MetroidXPSPosted 10/15/2008 3:21:31 PM
Well you can still win in Monster Arena if you know the best monsters to bet on. But other than that, it's not worth even bothering with casino.
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#5ice_ninja19Posted 10/23/2008 2:52:05 PM

MetroidXPS posted...
Well you can still win in Monster Arena if you know the best monsters to bet on. But other than that, it's not worth even bothering with casino.
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"You empty-headed animal food trough wiper!" ~ a soldier in DQ IV DS


Monster Arena is your best choice.

#6ImmortalKhaymanPosted 10/23/2008 7:11:57 PM
I was thinking about posting on this, and since it's been started I'll share what I've noticed.

300K tokens for the Bestiary is great, but if you want more Helms or Meteorite bracers, you'll have to play the casino; so, it's good to know.

In the Immigrant Town, I plugged 50 tokens into every slot machine, and there definitely are luckier machines in my opinion. I also noticed that the more lucrative machines didn't wait until turn 8 or 9 to start giving me tokens. They came in a trickle of 10-20 or so tokens every 2-4 rounds. The biggest winner did only yield 2 winning plays in 10 rounds, however; 1 round gave me 200 and another gave me 5 lol.I think there are 12 machines in that casino, and this is how my test ended up when I bet 5 coins each time:

1 machine gave me 205 coins in 10 plays (winner)
1 machine gave me 85 coins in 10 plays (winner)
1 machine gave me 50 coins in 10 plays (break even)
9 machines gave me 10 or less coins in 10 plays. (losers)

The machine that gave me 85 coins was a machine that had greater than average slots. Every winning round had at least 2 cherries in each column. Initially two rows had all 7's.

The machine that gave me 205 coins looked like most of the others. One row was initially lined up, I think all three 7's.

In the casino, 8 of the machines had 1 row of 777 in the initial position, and only 2 of them were not losing machines. 4 of the machines had 2 rows of 777 initially, and only 1 was a winning machine.

What I speculate is this: there are winning and losing machines that you can only find through a lucky shot in the dark or by plugging money into each machine until you find the winner. But once you find the winner, keep playing until you decide it's no longer fruitful. The three "break even" or "winning" machines I found all were losers when I went back to them later, even though I never left the casino.

With regards to the Monster Arena, if you're diligent it can pay off. In one series of battles (lucky and careful betting), I worked up to a reward of 6890 tokens, and another series of battles rewarded me with over 4k tokens. I entered the casino with 200 tokens and I now have over 15k. I'm saving up for more meteorite bracelets because I think I'm probably better off letting Torneko try to steal the Helms.

Don't play poker. The double or nothing rounds at times are impossible to win, if anyone didn't already know. You have to pick a card higher than the one turned face up. Occasionally you have to pick a card higher than an Ace or King... fat chance. One time I had to find a card higher than a 9, and when all the ards were shown, the highest was only an 8. I was guaranteed to lose.
#7Duke DarkwoodPosted 10/23/2008 9:20:51 PM
Pfft. That's nothing. When the card facing up is that evil minidemon, you KNOW you're in for it. Nothing beats a Joker, and I don't believe it's even a two-Joker deck (at least, in all my years of DW4 and now DQ4, I've never seen two Jokers in the same hand, in normal play or Double Or Nothing).

(Ever.)

The Casino system is broken in DQ IV. There is no trick. No exploit. It's kinda like a real Casino.

This is funny. Working like it should makes it broken?

Dragon Warrior 7's slot machines, now... THOSE are broken. First, if you got a big enough starting amount, you can literally sit there and (after raising the wager to maximum on the first game) press the confirm button, over and over again, until you hit the Jackpot. Then there are the freebie games that go on automatic for a while once you get the jackpot. (I once got 777 AGAIN during the run of free games, at the Coastal Casino).

Second, if the first two reels match, there's a fair chance one of the game gimmicks will come up, increasing the odds of a win.

Third, there is a slot machine at Coastal that accepts wagers as high as 500 tokens.

Speak not to me of broken.
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#8MetroidXPSPosted 10/24/2008 4:34:27 AM
Some people seem to think "broken" means not working right. Around here, broken means no challenge. Like Duke described about never losing on the slots once you have enough tokens(DQ VIII is this way too).
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"You empty-headed animal food trough wiper!" ~ a soldier in DQ IV DS
#9Duke DarkwoodPosted 10/24/2008 9:55:14 AM
Even by the "not working right" definition, though, he had no cause to call them broken in this game: He said himself "it's kinda like a real casino".

And yeah, once you get Baccarat's casino open in 8, roulette provides a similar opportunity for earning lots of tokens.

Here in 4, the only way to make sure you keep winning is to play religiously - by which I mean visiting the church often whenever you get some decent winnings.

And as others have said, it's the Monster Arena that offers the best winnings. True, even a "sure thing" fight can end badly, but if you have enough tokens, save first, and play until you get 3 consecutive wins, you can rake it in. Not as fast as 7 or 8, but still the best you can do in 4.
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#10StarryKnightsPosted 10/25/2008 9:49:28 PM
Poker used to be the only game in town as far as winning large amounts of tokens quickly was concerned. Then they ruined it.

Monster arena is more or less the same as it was in the original, as I reckon. Good enough to get the Falcon Sword, at least...
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