First time this has ever happened....*spoilers*

#1Omegaforce725Posted 2/4/2013 7:37:21 PM
I have 3 Mass Effect characters, all of which I played more or less as pure paragon. After not having played them in a while, I went back to ME1 and started a FemShep from scratch. It was my first female Shepard and I wanted to play her a little more like a Paragade.

I have almost a full paragon bar and my renegade bar is 1/3 full. I just finished Jack's loyalty mission and I don't have the option to mediate the argument with a paragon or renegade dialog option. I forgot about doing it as soon as possible...its one of the last missions I have left. Now I feel like I screwed myself out of a possible perfect run through the suicide mission.

Is there any way to fix this? Any way to still get everyone's loyalty? I feel like I'm gonna run into the same issue with Tali and Legion...
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#2LordTrinenPosted 2/4/2013 8:11:21 PM
Try talking to whoever you didn't side with. There should be a way to get their loyalty back.

This really will screw you out of a perfect run if you aren't able to mediate the argument between Legion and Tali. You must make peace between them here or else you won't be able to make peace between the quarians and geth in ME3.

There are morality point guides on the Mass Effect Wiki. Consult them to see if there is anything left you can milk for extra Paragon points.
#3Omegaforce725(Topic Creator)Posted 2/7/2013 9:35:38 AM(edited)
So I am in a bit of a situation here. I have been doing nothing but Paragon choices since this has happened and still don't have enough Paragon points to get Jack back to loyal status. Whats worse, I also didn't have enough Paragon points in Zaeed's mission to get him loyal. I now have 2 crew members who's loyalty I am unable to earn.

How likely is it for me to still have a perfect run through the Suicide Mission? I have the Normandy fully upgraded, but Jack and Zaeed aren't loyal because of how awkward the Paragon/Renegade percentages work...
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#4BlitzKing900Posted 2/7/2013 2:57:37 PM(edited)
I haven't played this in a while but what you can try is respeccing your character. One of the passive trees has an option for +100% Paragon/Renegade points. So if you took the +70% upgrade you can try switching to that and talking to Jack again. You can swap back after.

I'm fairly sure that in ME2 the system works on a percentage of points that you have vs the total amount you could have achieved up to that point. So you might need 70% of all Paragon points in the missions you had done up to that point. In the case of Zaeed if you go the paragon route then the checkpoint there is one of the hardest in the game I think.

Otherwise getting through the Suicide Mission with those 2 unloyal is quite possible. If you want you can do it blind first for drama. Then if you lose someone then you can redo it but make a different decision.
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#5LordTrinenPosted 2/7/2013 4:45:33 PM
Omegaforce725 posted...
So I am in a bit of a situation here. I have been doing nothing but Paragon choices since this has happened and still don't have enough Paragon points to get Jack back to loyal status. Whats worse, I also didn't have enough Paragon points in Zaeed's mission to get him loyal. I now have 2 crew members who's loyalty I am unable to earn.

How likely is it for me to still have a perfect run through the Suicide Mission? I have the Normandy fully upgraded, but Jack and Zaeed aren't loyal because of how awkward the Paragon/Renegade percentages work...


I just did some checking. As long as Jack and Zaeed are your only non-loyal squadmates, do all of the following and you should get everyone out alive. Spoilers ahead.

1) Get the weapon, armor and shield upgrades for the Normandy
2) Have Miranda, Garrus or Jacob lead the other team
3) Send Tali, Legion or Kasumi into the vents
4) Have Mordin escort your crew back
5) Have Miranda, Garrus or Jacob lead the other team
6) Use Samara as your biotic expert
7) Take Tali and Kasumi with you to the final battle, leaving the rest to hold the line

If my math is right this should work.
#6jakeDiLLaPosted 2/8/2013 8:07:20 PM
^I feel nice knowing that those are the exact moves I made and they turned out to be perfect =D