this isn't coming over here is it? ... <:-(
The PSP being killed by piracy comments do not make any sense and they never did. The DS was easier to hack than the PSP a few years ago, yet the DS was not "killed." Fact is, the PSP is a crap system. There are very few games on it that are actually worth the light of day.
That doesn't explain why the good games on the psp had low sales (possibly due to piracy). I don't think there is any one reason why it failed. Obviously piracy being the usual scapegoat but it isn't like, in this case, piracy had nothing to do with it. This is my personal opinion (due to the fact I have no facts to back it up), but I think it is wrong to compare DS and PSP piracy. PSP hacking is free but that is a small reason. I think it comes down to the owners. DS became a lot more mainstream than the PSP and thus a fair percentage of the owners didn't pirate.
Either way, personally I have mixed feelings about piracy. The custom firmwares have cool options and it's nice to 'try' out a few games you were on the fence about. Don't know if it is true, but perhaps if there was less piracy there would be a bit more good games.
Case in point is CDProjekt, the makers of The Witcher series. They are excellent developers. I even got a christmas card from them once with Geralt on it cooking a heart. With the release of the Witcher 2 they catered towards the fans and gamers with their patches and no-cost DLCs and no DRM. Only a few months later they seemed to be more cynical saying they want to drag piraters out to court and started citing numbers of people downloading/ed their game etc... I hope this doesn't deter them from their mission of being a 'gamers' developer. Something Blizzard and Bioware use to be until they were bought by the big publishers.
the games in psp are rather crappy, imo. I bought my pspgo and only finished fate/extra and tactics ogre. the other two games that interesting are dissidia and p3p, they are still unfinished. the rest? I'm using it to play psx games. I think psp market is rather saturated, there are too much jrpg games there and it's easy to lose appeal, especially when the gamers are young adult already.
perhaps 10-12 years ago we had all much time in the world to finish bazillions of psx and snes games, but with so much games to choose and evolving maturity, I'm sure most gamers who grew with jrpg familiar already with jrpg cliches.
most of my friends I know havent played games for years since ps2, some bought the current gen consoles/handhelds but rarely play, let alone finish it. the reason? they are bored with the jrpgs. the story is cliche, etc etc. piracy might be factor, but the quality... I'm not sure.
sometimes I feel the rpg market is saturated already, it's amazing that the video game market has not crashed like 1983 since the amount of games released in pc era probably exceeded the amount of games in 1980s.
perhaps I'm also the only person in this board that's not too interested in FF reishiki. Square enix these days... they could make a pony simulation breeding game and label it as final fantasy or one of their old franchise...
btw cdprojekt is awesome company. I spend my money happily at gog and their drm-free products :)
I agree about CDprojekt. Also I don't think JRPG's becoming too cliche is their main issue. Rather they have simply been just bad. This generation has served some really crappy jrpg's while the wrpg genre has taken off in popularity, causing some Japanese developers to say they should incorporate wrpg stuff into jrpg. Don't know about that. Nothing wrong with having 2 distinct rpg genres. However, there are a few good jrpg's that may seem derivative but develop to be quite good games. An example is Legend of heroes trails in the sky.
Xenoblade chronicles is also a good game. As is Tales of Vesperia.
I do agree though that jrpgs can expand more in the storytelling department. That is why FFtactics is an all time favourite. What started out as political intrigue, personal vendettas and civil war turns evolves into a lie that has spanned generations. I also LOVED ff12. I know there are those that hate the story and combat system. I actually enjoyed the both so much. People disliked the lack of character development but I didn't have a problem with it. I liked the story as a whole as well as watching completed characters and their motivations.
Personally I hated all that sappy stuff from ff13. People praised that story due to the character development. It was absolute rubbish in my opinion. The story and characters as felt ilke some badly written teen novel.
I am getting older too. In my mid 20s now and it is harder to find a jrpg that is astonishing. Still I love my psp more than my DS. TWEWY is ace though.
I always find it surprising that people mention Xenoblade all over the place but never Lost Odyssey. I'm not sure what the consensus is on Lost Odyssey (actually it's probably poor since nobody ever mentions it), but I personally feel it has a brilliant storyline and lots of emotion.
But I completely agree with people that JRPGs have largely sucked lately.
so I guess what the critics said are true after all? that jrpg is dead? I admit that I only play handful new titles. these are the games rpgs I manage to finish in the current gen:
-tactics ogre PSP
-fire emblem wii
-chrono trigger ds
played but not finished:
my friends also lend me many of his games therefore I got chance to play before purchase it... turned out I wasn't interested to play at all. I'm not sure whether it's me changing or the quality of japanese games are either stagnant or dropping. I also get xenophobic toward new titles, for some reason it's getting harder to play new franchises.
maybe I'm biased by nostalgia but even newer titles from final fantasy failed to excite me. FF III DS? FF IV DS? life of king? crystal chronicles? FFTA2? they are all alienating me for some reason.
I'm not sure whether it's just me who experienced this. what jrpg games have you played and finished?
Jrpg isn't dead. Just a bit stale. Gotta remember the body of work Square did for the ps1 and ps2 which constituted a major part of Jrpg consciousness, This level of output hasn't been the same in the HD era, understandably due to costs, but the games they have put out have been disappointing. You find that smaller developers are coming to the fore slowly with some new games/IP's and it just seems the Jrpg genre is now recovering/(taking advantage of) from the 'shock'/(the space Square left in terms of quantity).
Tales of production seems to have been ramped up in the past few years as well. TBH, I really enjoy the older games made by Square but even then I do not want them to remake them. I prefer new games to revitalize the genre.
Btw kenff6, thanks for pointing out Lost Odyssey. I think people overlook it because while it is solid and fun it isn't flashy. And it is also quite old in terms of this gen. I do like the game though and niche jrpgs like Resonance of Fate.
2 things that just came to mind is that I am disappointed in Mistwalker and Dragon Quest. Mistwalker hasn't lived up to expectations and I am very sad at the direction of DQ. It must be very exciting for people who enjoy the whole multiplayer aspect of it but it isn't for me. Wasn't too fond of DQ9 and I was looking forward to it so much as DQ8 is my 2nd fav DQ. It isn't to say I don't enjoy Multiplayer games. Just not mmorpg-ish ones. I was a good player in starcraft 2 (reaching 15th on SEA server then had to study again) and I am kinda looking forward to D3 multiplayer (I will definitely player single player though)
JRPG isn't dead. It's kinda like say your favorite Pizza. You have it once in a while and it tastes awesome, have it all the time and it just isn't as awesome as having it every now and then.
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