Loved the game, but the ending made me sad (spoilers)

#1KaliestoPosted 8/2/2012 12:56:27 AM
I wasn't expecting that, I have to say I was pretty fond of Aya's personality and story from the last two games, it just feels so...depressing.


I'm currently playing my 2nd play through for the secret ending, hopefully maybe she didn't die? You all can spoil for me if it's still the case.
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#2SoraandRoxasFanPosted 8/2/2012 4:42:47 AM
The secret ending hints towards the possibility of Aya being alive, although we don't know if she exists in a new parallel world created after changing Time Zero (which is different from Eve's world) or if everything from this game is just a dream made by Eve who supposedly has been kidnapped by the Government who wants to look into her powers.

This could be perfectly a dream because the events from the ending doesn't completely add up at all due to those events being related to PE2, that's why this detail can't be overlooked. Aya is almost immortal and the government should know they can't kill her, but thanks to Eve's powers which return after 10 years they are able to do it.

Also Kyle's actions are very suspicious: he's the only High One who revives; Cray, Gabrielle, Emily and Maeda aren't in Eve's world the same people from previous parallel worlds since they don't know her while Kyle is the only one who knows her.

Moreover Eve thinks at the beginning he has kidnapped phantom Eve, which is actually fragments of Eve's body that wander in time and space. Hyde also states at the end of Episode 3 that he can't find the files regarding Eve and Kyle, and Blank considers the idea of Kyle being a ''monster'' , the same way as Boss considers Eve a monster, so all that stuff means Kyle has mithocondrial powers like Aya and Eve.
#3Kaliesto(Topic Creator)Posted 8/2/2012 12:52:33 PM
My mind is now full of ****. X)X
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#4SSj7CloudSPosted 8/2/2012 7:04:04 PM
The ending made me sad too, although it was for entirely different reasons.
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#5Stover46Posted 8/3/2012 2:12:56 AM
From: SoraandRoxasFan | Posted: 8/2/2012 8:42:47 AM | #002
The secret ending hints towards the possibility of Aya being alive, although we don't know if she exists in a new parallel world created after changing Time Zero (which is different from Eve's world) or if everything from this game is just a dream made by Eve who supposedly has been kidnapped by the Government who wants to look into her powers.

This could be perfectly a dream because the events from the ending doesn't completely add up at all due to those events being related to PE2, that's why this detail can't be overlooked. Aya is almost immortal and the government should know they can't kill her, but thanks to Eve's powers which return after 10 years they are able to do it.

Also Kyle's actions are very suspicious: he's the only High One who revives; Cray, Gabrielle, Emily and Maeda aren't in Eve's world the same people from previous parallel worlds since they don't know her while Kyle is the only one who knows her.

Moreover Eve thinks at the beginning he has kidnapped phantom Eve, which is actually fragments of Eve's body that wander in time and space. Hyde also states at the end of Episode 3 that he can't find the files regarding Eve and Kyle, and Blank considers the idea of Kyle being a ''monster'' , the same way as Boss considers Eve a monster, so all that stuff means Kyle has mithocondrial powers like Aya and Eve.

wtf where did you get all this from about Eve being captured?
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#6SoraandRoxasFanPosted 8/3/2012 6:33:27 AM
^ From a theory made by kyushudanji in this topic. That theory seems very pausible given the hints found in the story:

Source:http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/951987-the-3rd-birthday/62732928?page=1

''After reading posts related to parallel worlds, multiverse theories, and dreams, I've been mulling over an idea if a sequel is made (which I do hope).

What if this game turns out to be a virtual reality experiment, designed to draw out and expand Eve's latent powers? I would assume that the "shadow organization" would have video surveillance of all of the events in the Shelter. Upon reviewing the videos, the remaining members of the organization realize that subjecting Eve to high levels of stress did not achieve the results they wanted. After seeing her interaction with Aya, they choose a more passive, subversive approach towards manipulating Eve to meet their goals: making Eve believe that her and Aya have achieved their "happily ever after" ending (similar to what the humans observed their world to be in the first "Matrix" movie). Until she met Aya, I assume Eve never had a positive experience in her life.

The kicker is Kyle, who played everyone because he still is involved with his unknown employer, the organization that is controlling everything behind the scenes. The first thing he did when he met Aya and Eve was to draw his gun on them. In subsequent encounters, he chose actions to make it seem as if he was "one of the good guys."

In reality, his true objectives are to win the trust of Eve and Aya (his actions in the Shelter indicate this), keep on eye on their movements (starting with surprising Eve and Aya at the museum), report everything to his superiors, and when the time is right, find a way to neutralize Aya and retrieve Eve. Each move he makes is calculated.

Once his objectives are accomplished, the organization creates a world real to Eve, but one that is carefully monitored by the organization, via the Overdive machine..

When I further think about it, the function of the Overdive device is similar to the helmet she wore in the Shelter--a means to control, monitor and perhaps amplify her power output. With the Overdive device, it is easier to monitor her vitals, which is something she mentions in the locker room, and determine what triggers/stressors would yield positive and negative results.

It may seem to be stretch and a bit clichéd, yet I think it might be plausible considering the circumstances.''

And another theory by him which explains all the dream stuff: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/951987-the-3rd-birthday/62817557
#7SSj7CloudSPosted 8/3/2012 10:28:00 PM
Seeing as all we got now are fan theories, I'll gladly take it. It's better than nothing and considering the alternative which is summed up as "SE: Oh sure we'll tell you what really happened, you see it's lolmystery." yeah...fan theory it is
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#8Mister_ZurkonPosted 8/4/2012 10:18:37 PM
SSj7CloudS posted...
The ending made me sad too, although it was for entirely different reasons.


http://i.imgur.com/4MWlY.jpg
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#9SSj7CloudSPosted 8/4/2012 11:17:16 PM(edited)
Mister_Zurkon posted...
SSj7CloudS posted...
The ending made me sad too, although it was for entirely different reasons.


http://i.imgur.com/4MWlY.jpg


http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22989941.jpg
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#10Mister_ZurkonPosted 8/4/2012 11:17:38 PM
SSj7CloudS posted...
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22989941.jpg


http://mylittlefacewhen.com/f/6281/
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