9/0/21 --- "When you asked for light I set myself on fire."
#3Cecil RagnarokPosted 3/14/2011 1:38:49 AM
why would you ever turn down 15% spell pen on a caster --- RaptorLC: So instead you made a sucky suicide that you're lucky was deleted quickly, so only a few LUEsers are actively mocking you for how bad it was.
#4realfreakoPosted 3/14/2011 1:47:34 AM
For the 1% max mana hp regen thingie --- PSN/MGO: TehFlame
#5BayersktPosted 3/14/2011 2:51:55 AM
9/7/14 is the best. m.pen from offense. strength of spirit from defence and expanded mind, meditation and quickness (2/3) from utility is best imo and several guides recommend it.
strength of spirit will give you sick hp regen when you have 4k mana late game.
#6ArmyOfWinPosted 3/14/2011 3:02:20 AM
^ yeah was going to suggest that.
Should come down to whether you want 9/0/21 or 9/7/14. Ryze's HP regen is fairly ridiculous with strength of spirit, but you are passing up 6% CDR and shortened summoner recharge in order to get it.
#7angelwkw3Posted 3/14/2011 3:57:20 AM
if an extra 60 mana at level 18 is useful then yea get expanding mind...get something more useful like extended buff durations or even greed.
#8TheMightyOakPosted 3/14/2011 8:33:26 AM
While people rag on expanded mind, it's an extra 50 mana per 1000. That's an extra 5 damage for his Q for every 1k mana just from expanded mind.
Any late game ryze will have over 3k mana with some nearing 5k.
That's an additional 15-25 damage on every Q just from 4 matery points.
Without running any numbers I can safely say that the 15% mpen and 4% extra damage overall are the only abilities that can contribute a similar amount of damage for ryze.
#9iPWNtheNoobsPosted 3/14/2011 8:39:51 AM
Get the 9 defense 50+ hp per sec is amazing 9/7/14 sounds good. Expanded mind not really.
#10xXxDarkSidexXxPosted 3/14/2011 3:23:25 PM
Doesn't Expanded Mind only affect BASE mana? Why bother with it?