What was the old ryze like?

#1MumblypegPosted 5/3/2011 5:35:47 PM
I never got a chance to play him before he was changed, and I kinda forget what he did. Was he an early game nuker that tapered off late game? Also, did his Q still scale with mana?
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#2ComputerLegacyPosted 5/3/2011 6:03:39 PM
beta ryze had E as ult, and melted faces
the next ryze sucked
current ryze is mana tank

no clue if Q scaled with mana before, but everyone built him AP
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#3OctansPosted 5/3/2011 6:09:23 PM(edited)
I liked the old ryze better, tbh.

he was definitely under powered compared to most casters, and he needed to be changed, but I really don't like the direction they went with him.

Yes, Q scaled with mana, but his snare did not. His ult gave him an AP boost, and did not give him spell vamp. Gave stronger AoE damage as well.
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#4Rules Shadowrun DoesPosted 5/3/2011 6:07:01 PM
His Q did scale with mana but it had a much, much higher cooldown.

He was basically a glass cannon with terrible range and no escapes at all. He wasn't good except for sneak attacks or fighting melee 1v1, pretty much.
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#5mightyfenixPosted 5/3/2011 6:07:53 PM
ComputerLegacy posted...
beta ryze had E as ult, and melted faces
the next ryze sucked
current ryze is mana tank

no clue if Q scaled with mana before, but everyone built him AP


Old Ryze (not beta) was actually not that bad. He paled in comparison to the likes of top casters like Annie and Anivia though.
#6angelwkw3Posted 5/3/2011 6:35:35 PM
The Ryze before this wasn't that bad, people just didn't know how to play him and would die too often. To say he had no escape well most mages don't either. I miss that Ryze since I often did well with him and nobody played him lol. Now he's banned in ranked or in every game.
#7alvinxiePosted 5/3/2011 6:37:13 PM

From: mightyfenix | #005
ComputerLegacy posted...
beta ryze had E as ult, and melted faces
the next ryze sucked
current ryze is mana tank

no clue if Q scaled with mana before, but everyone built him AP


Old Ryze (not beta) was actually not that bad. He paled in comparison to the likes of top casters like Annie and Anivia though.


But it was funny walking up and E>R since each bounce did like 600-500 base damage at lv3.
#8TrevorkkhoPosted 5/3/2011 6:38:19 PM
Old ryze(pre rework one) basically can take squishy one v one. If it is open field, flash, snare, ult+E+everything and u are dead, then he slowly walks away, Otherwise he ambushes you in bush and does the same thing.
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#9TheJackylPosted 5/3/2011 6:43:36 PM
Old Ryze:

Q: Still his regular Nuke. Scaled with mana more than AP (8 second CD)
W: Still a snare, was a DoT as well. Only scaled with AP
E: Bounced between targets, scaled MUCH better with AP, and reduced their resistances
R: Granted you 50/100/150 extra AP, and your abilities did AoE damage as well

New Ryze:

Q - Passive: Grants CDR
Q - Active: 3 second Nuke, scales with Mana
W - Snare, damage is done upfront, Scales with mana
E - Same as before, doesn't scale with mana
R - Passive: Grants you more 250/500/750(?) mana
R - Active: Spells gain AoE damage and spell vamp
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#10AtomicCanolliPosted 5/3/2011 7:13:10 PM
Old Ryze = Not very good.
New Ryze = Much much better.
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