What the usual cs you should aim for by the 20 minute mark for top and ad carry

#1VeeMonPosted 10/15/2011 5:56:40 AM
im goona go on a wim and say about 150 avg?. but i've had games were i was in the 190's. Seems my early game farm worst than my late game.
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#2angelwkw3Posted 10/15/2011 6:10:40 AM
Honestly it always depends. You could be playing against aggressive players that will be okay with losing CS just to try to harass you or you could be dominating in your lane but often have to go back after surviving a fight to heal up so you miss CS that way.

But sure 150 is good for 20 minutes if everyone is just playing passively and there is little to no ganks.
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#3SpinnahPosted 10/15/2011 6:17:37 AM
Depends, who are you playing as? If you're Sona, you want ~10, while if you're say Nasus you probably want closer to 200.
#4cjpv1Posted 10/15/2011 6:27:30 AM
I'd say around 180 would be considered pretty good.
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#5DragoonKain33Posted 10/15/2011 6:53:57 AM
God-like CS is 100 cs every 10 mins out of a possible 127 cs or so. If you can do 200 CS by the 20 minute mark (out of a possible ~235), then you have absolutely dominated your lane. Other factors would make this a very rare occurrence (you'd usually top off at ~150 cs), but this should be something you should strive for every game.
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#6Ep1cn4m3zPosted 10/15/2011 8:10:33 AM
don't neutral minions count as creep as well?

not saying its viable to go out of lane all the time to kill them, but they ARE there
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#7MusashiExtraPosted 10/15/2011 8:57:01 AM
150 or higher is good.
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#8TurtleT9Posted 10/15/2011 12:26:24 PM
don't neutral minions count as creep as well?

not saying its viable to go out of lane all the time to kill them, but they ARE there

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#9Jitunu321Posted 10/15/2011 1:15:11 PM
just ended a 20 minute game as 8-1 with 146 so I'd say 200+ in a passive game
#10CubonedPosted 10/15/2011 1:21:41 PM
Depends. CS doesn't really matter. It's the amount of gold in relation to the cost of core items that matter factored with the cost of the enemy's core items and how close they are to obtaining that item.

You could have 70 CS by 20 minutes and be doing fine as long as you're still the highest or near the highest CS in the game. Because you're still closer to completing an important item than the enemy is and you gain your advantage when you have your core item and they don't. Now if you're playing a champion who's core item costs FAR more than someone else's and your CS is higher but they have enough gold to get their item then you're still behind because despite having less gold they've made more progress. They benefit more from that weaker item because it synergizes well with their skillset or w/e.