so why is miss fortune bad, again?

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FTLulz
Posted 6/30/2012 5:57:52 PM
XcaIIion posted...
outclassed maybe, but the way people talk about her gives the impression that she isnt viable at all.
she has a boots of mobillity passive, decent poke, decent AS steroid, and good teamfight with her aoe ult. she doesnt have the dps to match kog or vayne, the burst of trist or corki or the natural tankiness of graves, but she is still usable and comes with her own perks.


Most people on this board are bronze-gold. Most people here also don't play all that much.

Most people here also like to win, and winning factors into how much fun they have.

Now think, who is more efficient to learn, Graves, the King of AD Heroes, of MF, the gutter!@#$ of AD heroes?

A lot of MF defenders who claim she is fine as she is, simply like her due to her simplicity and her aesthetics/non combat variables. Let me ask you then, if MF switched kits with Graves, would you ever play Graves? LOL !@#$ no. Unless you are into that kinda thing.
Voidgolem
Posted 6/30/2012 6:15:13 PM
Ult doesn't crit.

that's pretty much it.
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iXCelticXi
Posted 6/30/2012 6:16:27 PM
She isn't.
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DoctorEggman
Posted 6/30/2012 6:58:39 PM
SorrySleeping posted...
DoctorEggman posted...
You know, if you're going to act like an ass, you should probably confirm that you're right, first.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Miss_Fortune_the_Bounty_Hunter/Ability_Details

While the channel is active, a wave of bullets is fired every 0.25 seconds that passes through the targeted conic area. Enemy units hit by a wave take physical damage.

Protip: that doesn't say "for every bullet". You can only be hit 8 times by MF's ult, if you stand it in for its full duration.



http://na.leagueoflegends.com/champions/21/miss_fortune_the_bounty_hunter
Bullet Time - Miss Fortune channels a flurry of bullets into a cone in front of her, dealing large amounts of damage to enemies.
Miss Fortune channels a barrage of bullets into a cone in front of her for 2 seconds, dealing 65/95/125 (+) (+0.2) physical damage per bullet.

I KNOW MF's ult doesn't do damage per wave like Panth's HSS, that would make it so she had a GOOD ultimate. If you want to argue it back, please bring in some video showing someone at the back end of MF's ult gettting hit by 1/2 bullets and someone up front getting hit by all of them to show damage. I don't have MF to test this.


/sigh

I'm going to submit this to rift myth's so they can put it on youtube.

Honestly though, if you even LOOKED at the numbers, you'd realize how ridiculous it would be to think that MF's ult did damage per bullet.
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DeleveleD
Posted 6/30/2012 8:21:37 PM
SorrySleeping posted...
DoctorEggman posted...
You know, if you're going to act like an ass, you should probably confirm that you're right, first.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Miss_Fortune_the_Bounty_Hunter/Ability_Details

While the channel is active, a wave of bullets is fired every 0.25 seconds that passes through the targeted conic area. Enemy units hit by a wave take physical damage.

Protip: that doesn't say "for every bullet". You can only be hit 8 times by MF's ult, if you stand it in for its full duration.



http://na.leagueoflegends.com/champions/21/miss_fortune_the_bounty_hunter
Bullet Time - Miss Fortune channels a flurry of bullets into a cone in front of her, dealing large amounts of damage to enemies.
Miss Fortune channels a barrage of bullets into a cone in front of her for 2 seconds, dealing 65/95/125 (+) (+0.2) physical damage per bullet.

I KNOW MF's ult doesn't do damage per wave like Panth's HSS, that would make it so she had a GOOD ultimate. If you want to argue it back, please bring in some video showing someone at the back end of MF's ult gettting hit by 1/2 bullets and someone up front getting hit by all of them to show damage. I don't have MF to test this.


Dumbest post yet, you've clearly never played MF enough to know that the damage you take is the same per bullet wave, regardless of where you are in her ult.
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XcaIIion
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Posted 6/30/2012 8:58:28 PM
when did this topic become about the mechanics of MF's ult...
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DoctorEggman
Posted 6/30/2012 9:29:17 PM
XcaIIion posted...
when did this topic become about the mechanics of MF's ult...


Its part of the argument about whether MF is good or not. One poster assumed that her ult did damage per bullet, and therefore does less damage if you use it max range. That is untrue, but were it true, then MF needs to be up close to do max damage, and that point blank range is both dangerous and not very large.

Its a moot point as its not true, but whatever. It also does physical damage now, letting her arpen take effect.

MF isn't useless, she's rather strong with common kill laners, much like corki. She's got a pretty good attack speed steroid, and her healing reduction makes her fighting in bursts against people like Soraka effective. She's outclassed, however, in many areas, making her not as common a pick.
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123mop
Posted 6/30/2012 9:30:36 PM
She's bad because meta sheep demand ad carries go bottom, when she is a truly dominating force in mid. Her speed can help her evade the skillshots that many ap mids have, and her damage takes a dump on their past the initial burst. Besides that, she's an incredible roamer. Push lane up with autoattacks, go gank using speed boost, return to ultimate the stacked wave, go gank again. You don't have any hard crowd control, but you do solid damage and you come in fast.

Seriously, if people would stop meta sheeping they would see that she is a great champion in mid lane against most opposing choices. With a build like ryze soraka or a kill lane bottom your team can still scale quite well depending on the opposing matchup.

Although her passive really could use the buff of not being shut off by minions. That's one of her biggest flaws right now if you exclude meta issues.
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FTLulz
Posted 6/30/2012 9:31:37 PM
Oh and speaking of MF's ult mechanics, I'll bet anyone 10$ in RP it works in waves, not bullets.
FTLulz
Posted 6/30/2012 9:36:08 PM
123mop posted...
She's bad because meta sheep demand ad carries go bottom, when she is a truly dominating force in mid. Her speed can help her evade the skillshots that many ap mids have, and her damage takes a dump on their past the initial burst. Besides that, she's an incredible roamer. Push lane up with autoattacks, go gank using speed boost, return to ultimate the stacked wave, go gank again. You don't have any hard crowd control, but you do solid damage and you come in fast.

Seriously, if people would stop meta sheeping they would see that she is a great champion in mid lane against most opposing choices. With a build like ryze soraka or a kill lane bottom your team can still scale quite well depending on the opposing matchup.

Although her passive really could use the buff of not being shut off by minions. That's one of her biggest flaws right now if you exclude meta issues.


So gimp your mid by putting him bot, and gimp yourself by making you a fast but ineffective roamer and nearly useless 1v1 against direct nukers or anyone who has quick kill combos like leblanc forcing you to go tanky which bones you for mid game team fights?

Also, it's going to be great getting your AP carry a blue if you aren't purple side. But I guess MF synergizes greatly with blue lol.

I mean sure, if you play with 4 other friends, and coordinate the line up to fit Miss Fortune mid, of course it can 'work'. But so can Evelynn, Master Yi, you name it. What's your point? Trying to secretly brag?
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