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More accurately, corkis valkyrie has far, far more useful situations.
And then there's the fact that in a teamfight, corki will easily do twice the dps of caitlyn
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MakJuss posted...

No you don't KS you just get the kill if your team visibily can't but is hopelessly trying to chase or ignored the ADC from the team fight because they went out and back i.

Q is not just a first cast, you can cast it multiple times and it has long range and pierces through tanks to the ADC.

E doesn't have to have a good slow, the main point is the DISTANCE it creates AND a slow is more than perfect!

Also if you place your traps to give your opponents enough time to react you're not playing chess properly.

Also that may be true with the bush but a caitlyn and a vayne, side by side, a caitlyn will kill the vayne by purely aa'ng versus vayne purely aa'ng if in a bush.

Cuz vayne will do some damage but not as much as caitlyn because caitlyns shots are harder than %.

So you do 5 against 5 with enemy in teamfight , their ADC is dying and run , assuming you are just herp a derp behind your teammate and hitting their jungler / bruiser and then moving 2-3s to find a good spot to use R so you can shot their carry is epic fail because while sitting duck for casting that R you will melted to ground by enemy.

Q is ONE SECOND cast which means enemy will at least trade 1 AA with you or even skill shot based spell like Sivir Q while they dodge your line of fire.

You are in bot lane where 1 ADC and 1 support mostly go , add 1 jungler when they gank and thats 3 target to slow while your E can only hit 1 , add the fact that you wont get E max first so your slow is neglible in fact you will get E as last skill to max. That 2s slow + 400 knockback is equivalent of 3s slow , while MF at worst do 3s AREA slow and 4s on Varus , Grave , Kog , Teemo , Twitch .

I play League of Legends , not chess ........ , that trap is visible and minion can spring it so if you try to zone with trap enemy will just avoid it like a boss , just put ward on bottom bush and there goes your trap.

Who play Vayne and just AA'ing enemy on 1 vs 1 , most bush is near wall so Condemn 2x damage hurt like a truck and Vayne got tumble too every 2s. Your passive proc = 1x tumble. Dont forget Vayne bolt is TRUE DAMAGE.

Q Is best used for POKING.

Or if you are out of position.

Or for piercing through multiple enemies.

You should obviously not Q an ADC while it's attacking you because that's just silly. That's like saying corkis phosphorous bomb is a terrible skill because when you use it in a team fight you could have done more damage just aa'ng.

Except here's the thing, caitlyn's Q has HUGE range. Even bigger than her AA range. It is a GREAT skill that can be used in MANY different ways.

Granted if you are in the middle of a team fight being focused you should probably not use Q! You guys are using the most cherry picked situations to make me seem like I'm wrong.


You will not always be in the perfect position in team fights, and caitlyn can both afford and capitalize on that interest.

And that slow situation is exactly that, a situation. If you have proper map awareness you should NOT be overextended if the jungler is MIA for a long time. If you are not overextended, you can easily E out of there, and you don't even have to get the slow to hit. Also your support will be safe.

Also in chess the pawns are visible are they not? It's the fact of whether you notice where the pawn can move, or rather where caitlyns traps can trap you.

Caitlyns traps are the equivalent of a queen piece on the chess. Except imagine having the ability of putting a sheet of paper over your side of the chess board. Because caitlyn's traps can be disguised in bushes.


And like I said true % damage (the keyword is %) can be outscaled by AD (non % damage).

Because true % damage is CAPPED. Ad damage is NOT capped at a %.

From: YellowWallpaper | Posted: 8/31/2012 12:17:01 AM | #045

Kirbix posted...

More accurately, corkis valkyrie has far, far more useful situations.
And then there's the fact that in a teamfight, corki will easily do twice the dps of caitlyn

Ok name one.

And no I'm pretty sure caitlyn out damages corki.
Corki has to be up close to deal the majority of his damage because his AAs are weaker than caitlyns i think.

Nevermind the fact that Corki's AAs are as strong as Caitlyn's at the same AD level plus extra true damage.
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It's only every 3 attacks if you aren't pushed out of the bush you're sitting in. Again, you have to rely on that. Corki is doing 55 damage every hit no matter where he is. Raw damage under ideal situations, yes, Caitlyn will do more damage. Otherwise, there's not a sure way of telling.
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YellowWallpaper posted...

eco master posted...

From: YellowWallpaper | Posted: 8/31/2012 12:17:01 AM | #045

Kirbix posted...

More accurately, corkis valkyrie has far, far more useful situations.
And then there's the fact that in a teamfight, corki will easily do twice the dps of caitlyn

Ok name one.

And no I'm pretty sure caitlyn out damages corki.
Corki has to be up close to deal the majority of his damage because his AAs are weaker than caitlyns i think.

Nevermind the fact that Corki's AAs are as strong as Caitlyn's at the same AD level plus extra true damage.

Ok for the lack of knowing how to explain this let's do math because I'm a math person sometimes.


Corkis autoattacks= 50 damage +5 damage per hit because of the +10%. So three attacks= 55X3 damage.

While caitlyns auto attacks= 50 damage per hit. But every third hit is like +50 more damage.

So caitlyn in three attacks will do 50X3+50 damage.

Which is much more idk the exact numbers but you get the point.

Because caitlyn can deal magic true and physical damage in form of burst right?
and Corki's Escape is FAR MORE SUPERIOR because he doesn't have to hug the wall to use it
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