KhaZix skill orders?

#1Edge4o7_Posted 10/9/2012 9:50:04 PM
So I finally bought Khazix today, I played one game as support because I was last pick and wanted to play that champ. We did pretty well, their bot lane was bad. I maxed W Q E and evolved W E Q.

What is a normal skill order like for jungle/mid/top? Do you max Q first for ganks?
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#2bighairycamelPosted 10/9/2012 9:51:03 PM
I've followed this guide with a lot of success:

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/kleptomaniac-khazix-an-in-depth-guide-250212
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#3LimeInCoconutPosted 10/9/2012 9:56:13 PM
From: bighairycamel | #002
I've followed this guide with a lot of success:

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/kleptomaniac-khazix-an-in-depth-guide-250212


Says W is the worst evolution.


Joke guide.
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#4BurnumMasterPosted 10/9/2012 10:12:03 PM
That guide is fail, dont follow that order
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#5G0dSlay3rPosted 10/9/2012 10:21:08 PM
LimeInCoconut posted...
From: bighairycamel | #002
I've followed this guide with a lot of success:

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/kleptomaniac-khazix-an-in-depth-guide-250212


Says W is the worst evolution.


Joke guide.


Also, Mobafire guide.


It depends on where you play him and what you're up against.

Mid'Zix:
First skills - Q-W-E
Maxing order - W-Q-E-R
Evolving order - W-E-Q (skip R entirely)

Top'Zix - Q/W/E (depends on your oppponent)
Maxing order - Q/W-E (enemy has ranged poke? focus on maxing W)
Evolving order - Q/W-E (skip R again, select W evolve first if opponent has decent poke)

Jungle'Zix - W-Q-E (Kha lacks the tools for an effective lvl 2 gank, so lvl 3 is his primary ganking opportunity)
Maxing order - Q-W-E
Evolving order - depends on your team and how much CC they have


In short, Kha'Zix has a lot of issues that become quickly apparent if you're facing a decently competent team.
His jungle clear times are slow, even his soft-cc is conditional and he drops off like a rock if he doesn't get kills or at least a lot of assists.


Also, evolved W is awesome, don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise. Great range, good damage, ranged slow and a conditional heal that heals you up to 3 times when evolved if you hit 3 targets in melee range? Yes please.

His ult is just bloody underwhelming, especially its evolved version.
1 second stealth with not nearly enough movespeed to be used as an escape or a good juke tool, followed by a 2 second cooldown between activations.
Evolved R is just mind-boggling in its contradictions.

Evolved R gives you 3 stealth activations along with a defense boost during stealth.
It's still just 1 second stealth and still has 2 second cooldown between activations.
The movespeed boost also lasts only one second.
Now think about it.
The only time that 40% defense boost is useful is under 2 conditions:
1.) You're turret diving someone, which is not something that a straight AD-Nuke assassin like Kha should ever do.
2.) The enemy team has Oracle's Elixir in a teamfight.

BOTH the stealth and the defense boost only last for 1 second, followed by a 2 sec cooldown.
It is among the most useless ults in the game.
#6Edge4o7_(Topic Creator)Posted 10/9/2012 11:19:25 PM
Yeah I don't know how anyone could call W evolve bad lol.

Thank you for the detailed post.
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#7GujinKamiPosted 10/9/2012 11:34:05 PM
From: bighairycamel | #002
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/kleptomaniac-khazix-an-in-depth-guide-250212

"Evolved Spike Racks (W): This is pretty much Kha'Zix's worst evolution"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

L1-6: W>E>W>Q>W>R
Priority: R>W>Q>E
Evolve: W>E>Q/R (Q/R comes down to do you want another invis, or do you want more 1v1 damage)

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#8dotsdfePosted 10/9/2012 11:45:02 PM
If you're laning and don't evolve W first, there's something wrong. It's helpful when your team wants to gank, and it's amazing for clearing loads of creeps. I have to laugh at the idea of it being his worst evolution.
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#9Edge4o7_(Topic Creator)Posted 10/9/2012 11:52:20 PM
From: GujinKami | #007
From: bighairycamel | #002
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/kleptomaniac-khazix-an-in-depth-guide-250212

"Evolved Spike Racks (W): This is pretty much Kha'Zix's worst evolution"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

L1-6: W>E>W>Q>W>R
Priority: R>W>Q>E
Evolve: W>E>Q/R (Q/R comes down to do you want another invis, or do you want more 1v1 damage)

Listen to me, I'm the person you trust with these sort of things.

True, but I don't know what position that's for.

Unless that's just for everything.
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#10anilEhilatedPosted 10/9/2012 11:56:05 PM
Mobafire doesn't bother with things like differing builds for various positions.
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