What's with Hecarim's damage?

#11iXCelticXiPosted 11/3/2012 2:51:20 AM
Fenrir the Wolf posted...
From: TheSteelPhoenix | #004
Wriggles/Boots of swiftness/Trinity Force/ Maw of Malmortis/Sun fire Cape/ Force of nature

wut


He also said max E before W sooooo...
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#12zeppelin312Posted 11/3/2012 2:52:19 AM
iXCelticXi posted...
Fenrir the Wolf posted...
From: TheSteelPhoenix | #004
Wriggles/Boots of swiftness/Trinity Force/ Maw of Malmortis/Sun fire Cape/ Force of nature

wut


He also said max E before W sooooo...


but moving fast is OP, thats why you get swifties too

/hue
#13Godspeed2000(Topic Creator)Posted 11/3/2012 2:52:28 AM
Ah sorry, I meant to say W instead of E.
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This.
#14iXCelticXiPosted 11/3/2012 3:04:31 AM
Q > W > E.
Srsly guise.
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#15KeiHazuki99Posted 11/3/2012 3:40:27 AM
iXCelticXi posted...
Q > W > E.
Srsly guise.


I agree with this one.
Q damage is very high.
TF or at least Shen is necessary on Hecarim because at max level, he could spam Q then auto attack to dealt about 400 damage every 2 seconds to main target and 200 damage to everyone else in range.
If you ignore him, your team will be wiped out.
Leveling E is just to reduce the cooldown by 2 seconds per level.
If you get 10% CDR, it's actually reduce more than 2 seconds on the E cooldown.
So if you get Frozen Heart, you already reduce the E cooldown about 5 seconds.
W will keep you alive while spinning your halberd left and right dealing tons of damage with TF.
#16dennis941012Posted 11/3/2012 3:46:34 AM
KeiHazuki99 posted...
iXCelticXi posted...
Q > W > E.
Srsly guise.


I agree with this one.
Q damage is very high.
TF or at least Shen is necessary on Hecarim because at max level, he could spam Q then auto attack to dealt about 400 damage every 2 seconds to main target and 200 damage to everyone else in range.
If you ignore him, your team will be wiped out.
Leveling E is just to reduce the cooldown by 2 seconds per level.
If you get 10% CDR, it's actually reduce more than 2 seconds on the E cooldown.
So if you get Frozen Heart, you already reduce the E cooldown about 5 seconds.
W will keep you alive while spinning your halberd left and right dealing tons of damage with TF.


Q>E>W
Hec well way I play him anyway will gank more then farm
the extra burst from E hits very hard

and W barely heals at all >_>
W
MAGIC DAMAGE PER SECOND: 20 / 31.25 / 42.5 / 53.75 / 65 (+ 20% AP)
MAXIMUM DAMAGE: 80 / 125 / 170 / 215 / 260 (+ 80% AP)
HEAL: 10% / 15% / 20% / 25% / 30%
MINION HEALING CAP: 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 / 180

with 30 ap on hect (around there anyway with TF)
284 damage = 70ish Max heal at max ranked

E
MINIMUM PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 40 / 75 / 110 / 145 / 180 (+ 50% bonus AD)
MAXIMUM PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 80 / 150 / 220 / 290 / 360 (+ 100% bonus AD)

with 200 ish AD
560 possible damage
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#17profDEADPOOLPosted 11/3/2012 3:49:11 AM(edited)
From: zeppelin312 | #006
TheSteelPhoenix posted...
I am not sure what you are doing wrong. Max Q > E > W

Jungle, don't lane like a jerk.

A fun and easy no thought build:

Wriggles/Boots of swiftness/Trinity Force/ Maw of Malmortis/Sun fire Cape/ Force of nature

That's if you are trying to do more damage. It's a fairly weak build compared to a lot of amazing things he can do (like shieres reviere and yomoos ghostblade combo)


oh god no

0/21/9
armor yellows, scaling mr blues, MS quints, ad or as reds
R>W>Q>E(more common) or R>Q>W>E(less common) depending on how the game is going

boots+3
philo
HoG
mercs
glacial
sheen or just get your FH/negatron(you can opt for just a nullmagic to make it into hex>maw)
get whatever you didn't pick above
Get your TF or FoN
FoN or TF
Shurylia's and Randuin's

geegee

optional LW for more damages

This build is good build. Although I like Philo before HoG and if I am doing really well I skip the HoG/Randuin's and build a GA instead.

From: dennis941012 | #016
KeiHazuki99 posted...
iXCelticXi posted...
Q > W > E.
Srsly guise.


I agree with this one.
Q damage is very high.
TF or at least Shen is necessary on Hecarim because at max level, he could spam Q then auto attack to dealt about 400 damage every 2 seconds to main target and 200 damage to everyone else in range.
If you ignore him, your team will be wiped out.
Leveling E is just to reduce the cooldown by 2 seconds per level.
If you get 10% CDR, it's actually reduce more than 2 seconds on the E cooldown.
So if you get Frozen Heart, you already reduce the E cooldown about 5 seconds.
W will keep you alive while spinning your halberd left and right dealing tons of damage with TF.


Q>E>W
Hec well way I play him anyway will gank more then farm
the extra burst from E hits very hard

and W barely heals at all >_>
W
MAGIC DAMAGE PER SECOND: 20 / 31.25 / 42.5 / 53.75 / 65 (+ 20% AP)
MAXIMUM DAMAGE: 80 / 125 / 170 / 215 / 260 (+ 80% AP)
HEAL: 10% / 15% / 20% / 25% / 30%
MINION HEALING CAP: 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 / 180

with 30 ap on hect (around there anyway with TF)
284 damage = 70ish Max heal at max ranked

E
MINIMUM PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 40 / 75 / 110 / 145 / 180 (+ 50% bonus AD)
MAXIMUM PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 80 / 150 / 220 / 290 / 360 (+ 100% bonus AD)

with 200 ish AD
560 possible damage

The heal is for all damage on any enemy/neutral monsters in the W range. Not just the damage from the skill. Means I can go into a gank at half health and come out at full health when the enemy laner dies. You want it maxed by level 13 for those midgame fights.
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#18FerretDruidPosted 11/3/2012 4:26:46 AM
He's balanced around being fast, and champs that can permaslow him pretty much totally gimp his damage output.
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#19BelligeroPosted 11/3/2012 4:36:38 AM
...I've seen Hecarim dive into full enemy team, targeting the enemy ADC, get bursted down to about 20%, then press W and the rest of his team jumps in and fight ends with him at ~80% HP.
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#20unlosing_rangerPosted 11/3/2012 5:06:16 AM
i build, boots, wiggles, trinity force, warmongers, force of nature, bloodthrister, altme's
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