Why is Athene's core on some casters but not others?

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User Info: WaterKnight

WaterKnight
4 years ago#1
I'm trying to learn AP mid and I've been trying to watch some pro players to get an idea on builds etc.

Orianna, Syndra, and Zyra almost always build Athene's as their first item. Then I see people playing champions such as Cass, Xerath, Ahri and they go straight for a Rabbadon's.

How do I determine whether Athene's is core or not? From what I can see most AP mids need blue to use their spells for a significant length of time and the latter champions I listed are no better at mana management than the former, except maybe Cass.

User Info: jepaan

jepaan
4 years ago#2
I find it smarter to take chalice first, then deathcap.
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4 years ago#3
Well you see...
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User Info: ssj98_gotenks

ssj98_gotenks
4 years ago#4
Not all casters like mana or mana regen or needs cdr.
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User Info: FreshSushi

FreshSushi
4 years ago#5
Athene's is expensive as ****. If you don't need to spam there's no reason to rush it.
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User Info: Black_Assassin

Black_Assassin
4 years ago#6
Look at Cassiopeia's passive.

User Info: narutofan72

narutofan72
4 years ago#7
WaterKnight posted...
I'm trying to learn AP mid and I've been trying to watch some pro players to get an idea on builds etc.

Orianna, Syndra, and Zyra almost always build Athene's as their first item. Then I see people playing champions such as Cass, Xerath, Ahri and they go straight for a Rabbadon's.

How do I determine whether Athene's is core or not? From what I can see most AP mids need blue to use their spells for a significant length of time and the latter champions I listed are no better at mana management than the former, except maybe Cass.


It's not really "core" on a lot of champs. Anivia, Galio, Orianna and Swain are the champs I can think of it being a core item for off the top of my head and this is because of their large mana costs. Ever since the nerf to abyssal though, champions who don't benefit from the passive because of their longer range tend to build chalice for the early Mgen/MR and then just finish it a bit later.
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User Info: Shuriko

Shuriko
4 years ago#8
From: narutofan72 | #007
WaterKnight posted...
I'm trying to learn AP mid and I've been trying to watch some pro players to get an idea on builds etc.

Orianna, Syndra, and Zyra almost always build Athene's as their first item. Then I see people playing champions such as Cass, Xerath, Ahri and they go straight for a Rabbadon's.

How do I determine whether Athene's is core or not? From what I can see most AP mids need blue to use their spells for a significant length of time and the latter champions I listed are no better at mana management than the former, except maybe Cass.


It's not really "core" on a lot of champs. Anivia, Galio, Orianna and Swain are the champs I can think of it being a core item for off the top of my head and this is because of their large mana costs. Ever since the nerf to abyssal though, champions who don't benefit from the passive because of their longer range tend to build chalice for the early Mgen/MR and then just finish it a bit later.


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if you rush Athene's on Anivia you're doing it wrong

anivia needs durability
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User Info: jonlaw101

jonlaw101
4 years ago#9
I take Athene's on some AP Casters like Katarina, Akali and sometimes Lee Sin.
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User Info: narutofan72

narutofan72
4 years ago#10
I never said rush it, I said it's core. RoA is also core on Anivia. It's situational whether you think you need the chalice or the catalyst first.
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