0.00 second death, topic #2

#71Sid_IcarusPosted 11/28/2012 8:23:35 PM
From: Xander7756 | #307
Sid_Icarus posted...
From: Xander7756 | #301
So bad I'm 88/23/103 in my last 10 games. A 4 K/D ratio! SOOOOOOOOO bad.

And yet you don't even know what on-hit effects are. And as it's been mentioned in the past, doing well against bad players doesn't say much. A person who makes a smurf and goes 30/0/X against a team of brand new players isn't automatically a good player. His opponents were just bad


As mentioned in the thread prior I play with competitive gamers who have an ELO over 2,000. Hardly a "smurf account against new players."

Said you, the guy without brains enough to know what evidence is. Not to mention that you still have yet to respond about how wrong you are about fizz's abilities considering you obviously don't know them or about on-hit effects in general. You know, things that people at lvl 15 even know about.
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#72SkyzPosted 11/28/2012 9:35:58 PM
Xander7756 posted...


Seastone Trident is an empowerment to his auto attacks. He cannot autoattack and also use Urchin Strike at the same time. He also cannot autoattack while he is in the middle of Playful/Trickster either. Your idea that Seastone applies with his Q is wrong. It says right on the ability it applies to his AUTOATTACKS. His Q, is not an autoattack.

Your scenario is also impossible because you cannot land Urchin Strike and Play/Trickster simultaneously either.

I also noticed that in your original reply you claimed that he one-hit people with his ult. His ult isn't on that death recap. Did you even look at the picture before trying to argue against it?


I never claimed that he could one hit people with his Ult.. Don't make things up. And you absolutely CAN land them at the same time.

ACTIVE: Fizz's autoattacks are empowered for the next 5 seconds, dealing additional magic damage on-hit and causing Grievous Wounds (50% healing reduction).

It's an on hit effect. It is applied with his Q.

Let's do math. I

Fizz in that picture has 4 items. I can't tell with the 4th one is so I'll exclude it.



Lich Bane - Death Cap + 22 from his AP rune page (lolking) - 314 AP & 107 AD from level 18 Fizz

Q 130(lv5) base (.6) 130 +188 = 318

ACTIVE: Fizz dashes a fixed distance in the direction of his target, dealing his total attack damage as physical damage plus additional magic damage to it. The ability will also apply on-hit effects.

Lich bane proc is 100& of his AP = 632 Damage Mixed +107 (Auto attack ) = 739 Mixed Damage

W 50(lv3) (.35) 70 + 109.9 = 179 -Damage Modifier/On hit effect

E 270 (lv5) (.75) 270 + 235 = 505

All of that equals - 1423 Damage


Check 1. He wasn't hacking his damage output because even when lacking his forth item the math checks out.

Check 2. Q- applies all ON HIT effects. Including damage modifiers (W) and his auto attack. It applies his auto attack too. Since you don't believe me here's an example.

Example.
TRIFORCE
UNIQUE PASSIVE - ICY: Your basic attacks have a 25% chance to slow your target's movement speed by 30% for 2 seconds. Tons of Damage. (20% for ranged attacks).

Ezreal

Mystic Shot
ACTIVE: Ezreal fires a bolt of energy in a line that will deal physical damage and apply on-hit effects to the first enemy it hits. If it strikes an enemy unit, all of Ezreal's cooldowns will be reduced by 1 second.

If you play this game and I'm starting to believe you don't. You know that Ezreal's Q SLOWS targets ALWAYS when he has a Phage/Triforce. You can look at thousands of replays to see him do it. Triforce explicitly says 'basic attacks' have a chance to slow your targets.

Basic attacks. This is key. Because Q applies his basic attack when he lands it. Otherwise WHY would Ezreal's Q slow the target EVER if only his basic attacks can apply it? Because his Q applies his BASIC ATTACK. It also outranges his Auto attack. You can see in replays that he lands it and it alone to slow a target.

This proves that Q will proc 3 of the 4 parts of his damage. Because Fizz's Q works

That leaves only the issue of E - and Q occurring together. You actually use Q before the AOE from E occurs. If you sit there and smash Q you'll get them to go at the same time.
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#73SkyzPosted 11/28/2012 10:03:35 PM(edited)
Xander7756 posted...
This wasn't one of my death recaps. It was someone else in the game. And it wasn't a bug in the death recap because the person in question was one-hitting people all game, killing them no matter what their health was. He was one of my allies so don't say I'm just "butthurt" either.


You don't play with 2000 Elo players. Because you were in a game with Shadow Walkerll who's plays with players who just turned level 30. Who have only played one ranked game. Players with two rune pages. Players who can't build properly. People who can't even break 1200 Elo in ranked play. You would never be matched up with these players if you managed 2000 Elo ranked or in normals.

If you decided to group up with your friends and they all were unranked 1200 elo players you'd still be up in the high 1600s in normals playing with decent players. Instead you get matched up with guys like Shadow Walker who simply pubstomped you and your friend.
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#74Xander7756Posted 11/28/2012 10:24:04 PM
And for those claiming that I am lying when I say that I play with Fatal1ty, fortunately I found one of those League of Legends statistics sites that has some old games history which hasn't updated yet. Here is your proof fools: http://penguinrungames.com/images/fata.png
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#75EphidelPosted 11/28/2012 10:31:08 PM
Fatal1ty hasn't played ranked either, so I hope he's not supposed to be one of your 2000 Elo pro friends. Because that would make you a liar.
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#76Sid_IcarusPosted 11/28/2012 10:33:35 PM
From: Xander7756 | #354
And for those claiming that I am lying when I say that I play with Fatal1ty, fortunately I found one of those League of Legends statistics sites that has some old games history which hasn't updated yet. Here is your proof fools: http://penguinrungames.com/images/fata.png

And I have 2 matchs with westrice, what's your point? Not to mention he's not a 2k elo player (he's unranked). Hell, he actually looks just atrocious at this game

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24252038#history

2/11/3. That's a real pro score
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#77Xander7756Posted 11/28/2012 10:37:01 PM
Skyz, your math doesn't equate to the damage each of his abilities dealt in the death recap, so it looks like you are wrong. He also wasn't level 18. When was the last time you saw a "highly fed" level 18 that had 4 items?

You also seem to forget that it is impossible to land Urchin Strike and Playful/Trickster at the same time. Just the delay between you pressing one button to the next would be tenths of a second added. At the very lowest we should be seeing it say 0.5 or something, not 0.0.
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#78Xander7756Posted 11/28/2012 10:38:13 PM
Sid_Icarus posted...
From: Xander7756 | #354
And for those claiming that I am lying when I say that I play with Fatal1ty, fortunately I found one of those League of Legends statistics sites that has some old games history which hasn't updated yet. Here is your proof fools: http://penguinrungames.com/images/fata.png

And I have 2 matchs with westrice, what's your point?


Proof?
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#79Sid_IcarusPosted 11/28/2012 10:47:53 PM
From: Xander7756 | #358
Sid_Icarus posted...
From: Xander7756 | #354
And for those claiming that I am lying when I say that I play with Fatal1ty, fortunately I found one of those League of Legends statistics sites that has some old games history which hasn't updated yet. Here is your proof fools: http://penguinrungames.com/images/fata.png

And I have 2 matchs with westrice, what's your point?


Proof?

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/2518330/

More proof then you have considering you just played with a crappy player with that name. A name that doesn't mean much because as it turns out, people jump on the names of pros of other games a ton in this game and most other online games. It's how things work. So all you got is a few matchs with a crap player bearing the name of somebody semi-famous. Such strong evidence there
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#80Xander7756Posted 11/28/2012 11:39:59 PM
Sid_Icarus posted...
From: Xander7756 | #358
Sid_Icarus posted...
From: Xander7756 | #354
And for those claiming that I am lying when I say that I play with Fatal1ty, fortunately I found one of those League of Legends statistics sites that has some old games history which hasn't updated yet. Here is your proof fools: http://penguinrungames.com/images/fata.png

And I have 2 matchs with westrice, what's your point?


Proof?

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/2518330/

More proof then you have considering you just played with a crappy player with that name. A name that doesn't mean much because as it turns out, people jump on the names of pros of other games a ton in this game and most other online games. It's how things work. So all you got is a few matchs with a crap player bearing the name of somebody semi-famous. Such strong evidence there


And what is your username out of these?
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