what are elise's bad matchups in top lane?

#11ShurikoPosted 12/1/2012 2:12:09 PM
From: ssj98_gotenks | #009
From: Shuriko | #007
scaling mana regen yellows lmfao


yellows suck so bad except for armor

its quite a shame

im using armor yellows right now even in mid

like who cares they're far better

what

12 armor reduces physical damage taken by like 15% early game

Flat armor is possibly the best stat period on runes.

As opposed to your choice where you wait until late game so that you can...regen more mana? Not even early mana regen? Level 18 mana regen?
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#12ssj98_gotenksPosted 12/1/2012 2:14:35 PM
From: Shuriko | #011
From: ssj98_gotenks | #009
From: Shuriko | #007
scaling mana regen yellows lmfao


yellows suck so bad except for armor

its quite a shame

im using armor yellows right now even in mid

like who cares they're far better

what

12 armor reduces physical damage taken by like 15% early game

Flat armor is possibly the best stat period on runes.



i just said that
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#13dennis941012Posted 12/1/2012 2:14:51 PM
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#14ShurikoPosted 12/1/2012 2:15:37 PM
From: ssj98_gotenks | #012
From: Shuriko | #011
From: ssj98_gotenks | #009
From: Shuriko | #007
scaling mana regen yellows lmfao


yellows suck so bad except for armor

its quite a shame

im using armor yellows right now even in mid

like who cares they're far better

what

12 armor reduces physical damage taken by like 15% early game

Flat armor is possibly the best stat period on runes.



i just said that


then why the hell do you have those in the guide
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#15ssj98_gotenksPosted 12/1/2012 2:23:21 PM
From: Shuriko | #014
then why the hell do you have those in the guide



Last update: 2 days ago


plus preference

go die
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#16ShurikoPosted 12/1/2012 2:24:30 PM
From: ssj98_gotenks | #015
From: Shuriko | #014
then why the hell do you have those in the guide



Last update: 2 days ago


plus preference

go die


You must not care much about it then if you don't even want to put in better information.

Take a lesson from Zakkers. He updates his Rumble guide all the time if he's ever wrong (like you are in this case).
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#17Dark_DcPosted 12/1/2012 2:56:42 PM
Okay so here is what I think after a few rounds:

Bad matchups include those who can consistently push really hard. Morde gives you a tough time because his shield will block your harass while he pushes, and you can't push back effectively. Vlad COULD give you a hard time, but if you take advantage of your harass and such between levels 3-6, you can burst him down once he hits 50% hp with ignite.

But if you don't stomp Vlad early, he will dominate you. Rengar may be able to win as well, but he will be forced to use empowered W and stay in the bushes.

I run mpen reds, armor yellows, mr blues, and MS quints.

I typically go for a tank/utility page for regen and spider tankiness but I've also done mpen+defense pages

As long as you max Q and can last hit effectively (found it difficult initially), you should win. Use your spiderlings to freeze a pushing lane, which gives you a chance against pushers. HOWEVER morde will **** all over this strat in my experience. Vlad won't be able to do much about it though.

She's pretty safe if you counterbuild lane and start boots dorans rylais/abyssal (depends).

I think I read the posted guide and its pretty good. But yeah the freezing of the lane with spiderlings is probably your best friend. Lets you get massive cs while denying the enemy and leaving them open to ganks which you can quickly capitalize on with stun and spider drops.
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#18happyscrub1Posted 12/1/2012 3:03:07 PM
galio
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#19happyscrub1Posted 12/1/2012 3:09:34 PM
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#20ssj98_gotenksPosted 12/1/2012 5:41:15 PM
From: Shuriko | #016
Take a lesson from Zakkers. He updates his Rumble guide all the time if he's ever wrong (like you are in this case).


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